Second Chances

richart said:
Do you have to be an attending supporter to sign a petition ? Do you actually have to be a supporter at all to sign ? Wouldn't a local with an interest in your town/area be qualified ?

When Oldham were in the top flight they got crowds of 20,000, so probably have a lot of followers even if they don't go to games now. How many forumers that comment on the football threads on here actually go to games ?:whistle: I imagine less than 10% of clubs 'supporters' actually attend matches, but a football club like Oldham is probably a huge part of the town, and a lot of locals feels they can comment/sign a petition.
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So were they all local people signing the petition?
Or was it people that don't think he should be allowed back in the game?
If you stand in a town centre asking people to sign a petition to "stop a rapist signing for the local team" you'll get every old dear & their mate signing it even if they know nothing about the case.
 
brendy said:
But Oldham have form for employing convicts. Lee Hughes was signed after serving time for killing someone via dangerous driving who (along with his passenger) then fled the scene for 36 hours then handed himself in, plenty of time for alcohol etc to dissipate, then lied about how it happened. not that that fixes a life wiped out.
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Each case on its own merits I would have thought, and Club could tell by reaction at Sheff U and Hartlepool how this would go. Each new Club he tries to join will provoke even greater reaction. Can you imagine sponsors will stay with a Club that take him on ? Evans needs to wait until his case is 'reviewed' to have any chance of joining a club, assuming his conviction is quashed. I would not support a player playing for my club that is a convicted rapist. In the past Reading have sacked a player for taking drugs, so employing one convicted of rape.:mad:

Lee Hughes was given a second chance. Is that wrong ? Rightly or wrongly when he returned to football there was not the same outrage. Personally think the cases are different. Also the way the players have acted once they were freed from jail is completely different.
 
Val said:
Why would she be abused and harassed? She's the victim. I'm sure you can see what I'm angling at here FD.
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Don't forget, Ronnie Biggs was feted by many in East London. Just maybe Ched's locals are doing the same for him.
 
Pin-seeker said:
So were they all local people signing the petition?
Or was it people that don't think he should be allowed back in the game?
If you stand in a town centre asking people to sign a petition to "stop a rapist signing for the local team" you'll get every old dear & their mate signing it even if they know nothing about the case.
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What is there to know about the case. As it stands he is a convicted rapist. Everything else is heresay. If his conviction gets over turned then I am sure plenty would sign a petition for Evans to play for their Club. Would you sign a petition 'to allow a player wrongly convicetd of rape, who served a jail sentence for something he didn't do play for your club' Where do I sign.

A lot of people, me included, do not want a rapist playing for my local football team. We have more families, children going to matches than ever before, and a convicted rapist is going to be a role model, have his name chanted, have his name on the back of kids shirts. Sorry not for me.
 
Pin-seeker said:
Personally I'd like to know a few details about a case before forming my own opinion.
Maybe some are happy to have total faith in the legal system.
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Personally I would rather have faith in our legal system, and a conviction by jury, over rumours and hearsay. Evans will have his chance when his case is 'reveiwed'. If innocent he will not be the first person to be convicted wrongly, but I am sure they are a small percentage compared to the ones convicted correctly. Seem to remember a lot of peope saying they were innocent when actually they were guilty.:eek:
 
The thread has moved on a bit since I looked in last, but I want to ask a question that may throw up some conflicting opinions. Is guilty of forcing someone to have sex, or is he guilty of having sex without the victims consent. For me he is not guilty of forcing someone to have sex, but having sex without consent. To me these are 2 totally different situations, just like murder and manslaughter. You would look at someone who has been convicted of manslaughter different to a murderer. But in the case of Evans he has been convicted of the same crime as someone who beats and rapes women. Was there intent on his behalf to commit rape, I believe not. That is why I think sexual assault should be looked at like homicide is, 2 different types.
 
MadAdey said:
The thread has moved on a bit since I looked in last, but I want to ask a question that may throw up some conflicting opinions. Is guilty of forcing someone to have sex, or is he guilty of having sex without the victims consent. For me he is not guilty of forcing someone to have sex, but having sex without consent. To me these are 2 totally different situations, just like murder and manslaughter. You would look at someone who has been convicted of manslaughter different to a murderer. But in the case of Evans he has been convicted of the same crime as someone who beats and rapes women. Was there intent on his behalf to commit rape, I believe not. That is why I think sexual assault should be looked at like homicide is, 2 different types.
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If you drugged someone and had sex with them what category would that fall into ?
 
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