Second Chances

[JCW]

Look its like this , everyone should get a 2nd chance ok , so if investors and others say they will pull out then its their right too just like the fans who won`t go to matches if he was playing , we are talking about peoples rights here , all he has to do is find a club that will take him on and not worry about what others think , its that simple , where and who this club is , well that`s another story , guy is done as a footballer , only way back now is he wins his appeal , what chance is that

 

[Blue in Munich]

I wish I was as confident as you with the legal system.

I'd share those concerns, particularly after reading the transcript posted on here.

 

[Beezerk]

If that is true, how did the other bloke manage to be found not guilty then?

Should all of this outrage be aimed at how he has got off the conviction?

You pull a lass in a club, you're both kinda blotto but you go back and have sex which she agrees to. However on the way back to your house in the taxi you text your mate and he comes back a bit later when he's failed to pull. He then has a go with the lass while she's wasted on the bed.
Did your mate rape the her or is it just normal "laddy" stuff?

 

[richart]

Evans has been given a second chance, and is legally free to join a Club. You can't force a Club to employ him though, and I doubt any will, unless his conviction is over turned. I can't believe that Oldham were so naive to think they could employ him, without all the outrage that occured when he looked like joining Sheffield United and Hartlepool.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

254 posts & still discussing such a sensitive subject without it getting silly.
Come on Mods surely a thumbs up isn't too much to ask

:thup:

Well done, keep it up

 

[Pin-seeker]

:thup:

Well done, keep it up

cheers Phil

 

[Pin-seeker]

Evans has been given a second chance, and is legally free to join a Club. You can't force a Club to employ him though, and I doubt any will, unless his conviction is over turned. I can't believe that Oldham were so naive to think they could employ him, without all the outrage that occured when he looked like joining Sheffield United and Hartlepool.

Yeah good point,surely no club will touch him now. Sheff Utd got screwed pretty bad by all of this.
Even if his conviction is overturned he's still going to get hammered by opposition fans.
Wonder how serious the police are taking these threats being made to people working for the clubs that considered signing Evans.

 

[Hobbit]

254 posts & still discussing such a sensitive subject without it getting silly.
Come on Mods surely a thumbs up isn't too much to ask

:thup:

Well done, keep it up

cheers Phil

Quick, now he's gone let's do silly things!! :ears::clap:

 

[Blue in Munich]

Evans has been given a second chance, and is legally free to join a Club. You can't force a Club to employ him though, and I doubt any will, unless his conviction is over turned. I can't believe that Oldham were so naive to think they could employ him, without all the outrage that occured when he looked like joining Sheffield United and Hartlepool.

Indeed you can't, but apparently you can force a club NOT to employ him, even if you have to resort to threatening a retaliatory rape in order to do so.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ard-member-told-daughter-raped-deal-done.html

 

[FairwayDodger]

Yeah good point,surely no club will touch him now. Sheff Utd got screwed pretty bad by all of this.
Even if his conviction is overturned he's still going to get hammered by opposition fans.
Wonder how serious the police are taking these threats being made to people working for the clubs that considered signing Evans.

Hopefully very seriously. There's something particularly perverse about people protesting about a rapist by making rape threats....

 

[Pin-seeker]

Hopefully very seriously. There's something particularly perverse about people protesting about a rapist by making rape threats....

It's disgusting,no one should be subject to that.
Probably just idiots/cowards shooting off their mouths on the end of a phone.
Still very serious tho.

 

[FairwayDodger]

It's disgusting,no one should be subject to that.
Probably just idiots/cowards shooting off their mouths on the end of a phone.
Still very serious tho.

Totally agree.

 

[richart]

Indeed you can't, but apparently you can force a club NOT to employ him, even if you have to resort to threatening a retaliatory rape in order to do so.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ard-member-told-daughter-raped-deal-done.html

That didn't happen at Sheff U and Hartlepool, and I think it was just the excuse Oldham were looking for when they realised how naive they were being. You will always get the odd nutcase when you have tens of thousands involved, but I think the 60,000 petition, sponsors leaving etc might have had some affect.

 

[Pin-seeker]

That didn't happen at Sheff U and Hartlepool, and I think it was just the excuse Oldham were looking for when they realised how naive they were being. You will always get the odd nutcase when you have tens of thousands involved, but I think the 60,000 petition, sponsors leaving etc might have had some affect.

Wonder how many of the 60,000 were Oldham fans.
What crowds do they get?

 

[brendy]

That didn't happen at Sheff U and Hartlepool, and I think it was just the excuse Oldham were looking for when they realised how naive they were being. You will always get the odd nutcase when you have tens of thousands involved, but I think the 60,000 petition, sponsors leaving etc might have had some affect.

But Oldham have form for employing convicts. Lee Hughes was signed after serving time for killing someone via dangerous driving who (along with his passenger) then fled the scene for 36 hours then handed himself in, plenty of time for alcohol etc to dissipate, then lied about how it happened. not that that fixes a life wiped out.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Wonder how many of the 60,000 were Oldham fans.
What crowds do they get?

4,415 according to this link;

http://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-league-one-2013-2014/1/

 

[Val]

Thing is, Evans had his trial and was found guilty. It's the poor victim that's facing the trial by media, who has had to move and change her identity five times.

Why did she have to go that? Everyone in the local area knew who she was anyway so why did she feel she had to do this?

 

[FairwayDodger]

Why did she have to go that? Everyone in the local area knew who she was anyway so why did she feel she had to do this?

Don't know that much about it, to escape abuse and harassment, I think. I'm assuming she's long since left Ryl.

 

[Val]

Don't know that much about it, to escape abuse and harassment, I think. I'm assuming she's long since left Ryl.

Why would she be abused and harassed? She's the victim. I'm sure you can see what I'm angling at here FD.

 

[richart]

Wonder how many of the 60,000 were Oldham fans.
What crowds do they get?

Do you have to be an attending supporter to sign a petition ? Do you actually have to be a supporter at all to sign ? Wouldn't a local with an interest in your town/area be qualified ?

When Oldham were in the top flight they got crowds of 20,000, so probably have a lot of followers even if they don't go to games now. How many forumers that comment on the football threads on here actually go to games ? I imagine less than 10% of clubs 'supporters' actually attend matches, but a football club like Oldham is probably a huge part of the town, and a lot of locals feels they can comment/sign a petition.