Scottish v English football

[Deleted member 15344]

Just pointing out that the standards of the two leagues may not be as big as some down south folk tend to believe.

Sorry but I don't think that can be judged on by purely one game against a team with a new manager etc

Take Celtic out of the league and the rest of the teams I believe would be in the championship at best with maybe some in Lge 1

 

[Deleted member 18588]

So according to DfT's logic if, as sometimes happens, a team from League 1 or even 2 turns over a team from EPL this would mean that there is not much difference between the two.

Sorry but to attempt to establish the relative strengths of Leagues by basing it upon the results of "one off" Cup games is and always has been a mistake.

After all, in golf, Gary Wolstenholme once beat Tiger Woods but you would surely not claim that the former is even close to the World's No: !.

 

[chris661]

Excuse me

What do you need excused for?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What do you need excused for?

Was more an expression of confusion at your comment

Struggling to see the irony in what I said

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So according to DfT's logic if, as sometimes happens, a team from League 1 or even 2 turns over a team from EPL this would mean that there is not much difference between the two. !.

The game I highlighted was a Europa Cup game over two legs. Both games were very close with Liverpool slightly fortunate to go through. Nothing like a one off cup game.

BTW the following season Hearts were the only team in the entire season to take a point home from White Hart Lane. That's something 19 EPL teams and a few Europa cup teams failed to do.








Mind you we got gubbed 6-0 at Tynecastle!!

 

[Slime]

Celtic have a huge worldwide fan base and their TV audience would make a massive difference from the many dud teams like Fulham, Palace, Hull, QPR, Sunderland, WBA, Birmingham, Leeds, Forrest, Derby etc. etc etc.

After a couple of seasons Celtic would be an automatic top four EPL team.

Scottish fitba would be more competitive without Celtic [as has been proved without Rangers] and all of the clubs would thrive.

After a couple of seasons they are more likely to be a good Championship side rather than a top four EPL side.


Slime.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The game I highlighted was a Europa Cup game over two legs. Both games were very close with Liverpool slightly fortunate to go through. Nothing like a one off cup game.

BTW the following season Hearts were the only team in the entire season to take a point home from White Hart Lane. That's something 19 EPL teams and a few Europa cup teams failed to do.








Mind you we got gubbed 6-0 at Tynecastle!!

Over the two legs hearts failed to win either the home or away leg or the overall tie.

All that matter in the tie was to get through to the next round.

How many teams from the SPL do you think would compete in the EPL ( bar Celtic )

The gulf in standard is massive

The EPL is alongside the Liga and Bundasliga for standard of football

The SPL is a whole lifetime away from that standard IMO of course

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Mind you I do struggle to see why BBC covers SPL as if it is the second most important in the UK. Just look at the quality of players and the attendances.

Adam Rooney currently starring for Aberdeen yet could not hack it at Birmingham, Swindon or Oldham.

I'd disagree that they do.The Championship gets very good coverage, and rightly so, it's probably the best league in The UK, t's everything the EPL should want to be.

Rooney is very good imo

Take Celtic out of the league and the rest of the teams I believe would be in the championship at best with maybe some in Lge 1

League 1.But take into consideration the size of our nation compared to yours, the general state of fitness in Scotland, the money in the championship etc thru ownership/TV etc and it's realistic to say League 1.Aberdeen currently might be able to compete in Championship to avoid relegation, but thats about it.

Mind you we got gubbed 6-0 at Tynecastle!!

I've never tippled you were a jambo.I'm bitterly disappointed in you.


An overall observation...I think most folk in England don't understand the size of Celtc (and Rangers) Size of club only Man Utd and Liverpool are bigger.Given access to the EPL they'd help renegotiate bigger TV deals and whilst they'd take a wee while to establish, within 10 years Celtc would be challenging for top 4 at least....they'd be ripe for take over from billionaires and they'd fill stadiums only utd/liverpool currently do...Sunderland/Stoke etc.

So please, let them in.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Why is the championship the "best" league in the uk ?

And what do you mean by "best"

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I've never tippled you were a jambo.I'm bitterly disappointed in you.

We are doing OK
£500m less debt than Man U and Liverpool and in a better place than Bolton and Leeds
Shortly to be taken over by the fans and playing in the same league as Rangers next year.
Looking good.

I would agree that the Championship is the best league, more excitement and proper fitba.
Nane o this tippy tappy stuff and falling down like wee lassies that you get in the EPL, that's really boring.

 

[stevie_r]

Oh dear, the old guff that Celtic would be great for the EPL because they would fill out all the stadia every other week with their away support. Utter cobblers.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

We are doing OK
£500m less debt than Man U and Liverpool and in a better place than Bolton and Leeds
Shortly to be taken over by the fans and playing in the same league as Rangers next year.
Looking good.

I would agree that the Championship is the best league, more excitement and proper fitba.
Nane o this tippy tappy stuff and falling down like wee lassies that you get in the EPL, that's really boring.

Proper football ?

Tippy tappy ?! That's called highly skillful possession football and it's played by some of the best clubs in the game.

Or do you prefer the West Ham lump it and watch oafs kicking lumps out of each other with the skill level of a snail ?

 

[NWJocko]

An overall observation...I think most folk in England don't understand the size of Celtc (and Rangers) Size of club only Man Utd and Liverpool are bigger.Given access to the EPL they'd help renegotiate bigger TV deals and whilst they'd take a wee while to establish, within 10 years Celtc would be challenging for top 4 at least....they'd be ripe for take over from billionaires and they'd fill stadiums only utd/liverpool currently do...Sunderland/Stoke etc.

So please, let them in.

Good point, it really is underestimated down here just how big Cektic and Rangers are. Agree with you in terms of their prospects if they ever got into the PL aswell, maybe even quicker than 10 years....

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Tippy tappy is so boring why don't they just get on with it.
Is it because they are feart or don't have the skill levels.

BTW We don't give penalties for broken nails up here

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Tippy tappy is so boring why don't they just get on with it.
Is it because they are feart or don't have the skill levels.

BTW We don't give penalties for broken nails up here

Was it boring when Brazil were doing it back in the 50's ?

If you think that Barcelona or Spain don't have the skill levels then I'm afraid your idea of football is a little different.

 

[stevie_r]

Tippy tappy is so boring why don't they just get on with it.
Is it because they are feart or don't have the skill levels.

BTW We don't give penalties for broken nails up here

The entertainment level in the EPL this year has been excellent, the SPL has not. Does your nurse know you are on the internet unsupervised?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Why is the championship the "best" league in the uk ?

And what do you mean by "best"

It's competitive, various winners,realistic aspirations and coverage,good standard,the play offs are the best thing in football imo too.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It's competitive, various winners,realistic aspirations and coverage,good standard,the play offs are the best thing in football imo too.

Well off course it has various winners - the winners go into a different league

Every league is competitive - the EPL is with currently 3 going for the title - appears Leicester have the champ sown up

What exactly are aspirations of a league ? The coverage is normally two games a weekend plus one midweek - the prem normally has one more.

The standard is good - not as good as the prem obviously

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Was it boring when Brazil were doing it back in the 50's ?

If you think that Barcelona or Spain don't have the skill levels then I'm afraid your idea of football is a little different.

In the 1950's Brazil played towards the opponents goal.

I blame it all on Ray Wilkins and Barry Ferguson, they started this passing towards your own goal trend.
Barca and Spain are pretty boring to watch, I tend to fall asleep when they play.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

In the 1950's Brazil played towards the opponents goal.

I blame it all on Ray Wilkins and Barry Ferguson, they started this passing towards your own goal trend.
Barca and Spain are pretty boring to watch, I tend to fall asleep when they play.

Check out how many goals Barce and Spain score - look at the scoring record of Messi ( or is he boring )

Possession of the football is key - it appears you don't appreciate it and would you prefer they just hoofed it up ?