Scottish independence

[Old Skier]

I think that folk are seriously failing to grasp how important Scotland is to The UK,whether that's because of Coulport (forget Faslane, that's a red herring) or because of Oil or because we help the south east prop up the rest of The UK, we're essential and rUK will be in a pickle if we leave.

I would be interested to know if you feel this is just a one way stretch.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think that folk are seriously failing to grasp how important Scotland is to The UK,whether that's because of Coulport (forget Faslane, that's a red herring) or because of Oil or because we help the south east prop up the rest of The UK, we're essential and rUK will be in a pickle if we leave.

What folk are you referring to - those having a vote or those not having a vote?

Those having a vote may not care if your assertions are true - those not having a vote - well - they don't have a vote.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I listened to an neutral finance expert the other night who said that the worst possible result for the rest of the UK would be for Scotland to move to the Euro.
Scotland's treasury would basically take 8.3% out of sterling and convert it to Euro's.
Can you imagine the run on the pound that an 8% drop in sterling would cause.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

But more in the age bracket of Robert the Bruce

..and as lissome as Margaret Rutherford

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Interesting discussion the other night when a chap said 'Just for one minute imagine that Edinburgh was London and London was Edinburgh.
England would be basically ruled by a huge army of civil servants, politicians and institutions based in a Scottish city 400 miles away with a population of 8 million who received many financial advantages.

Do you think that they would be happy?

And see what happened in 1977 when MoD proposed moving from London to Glasgow. And the swines demolished St Enoch station to make way. Now that would have made the independence debate even more interesting - UK MoD in Glasgow

 

[stevie_r]

And see what happened in 1977 when MoD proposed moving from London to Glasgow. And the swines demolished St Enoch station to make way. Now that would have made the independence debate even more interesting - UK MoD in Glasgow

The Army Personnel Centre, a fairly significant and sizeable organisation is in Glasgow.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The Army Personnel Centre, a fairly significant and sizeable organisation is in Glasgow.

And a fair few other depts - wonder where they'll relocate to Push in 1977 was to have the majority of the MoD move. I'm guessing that this would have been in part to the rise of the SNP in 1974 and the Margo effect.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And see what happened in 1977 when MoD proposed moving from London to Glasgow. And the swines demolished St Enoch station to make way. Now that would have made the independence debate even more interesting - UK MoD in Glasgow

And the reasons for scrapping the move made sound sense [not].
Massive savings for the services but the generals, air chiefs, admirals and army of hanger on's did not wish to move from London.

 

[stevie_r]

And a fair few other depts - wonder where they'll relocate to Push in 1977 was to have the majority of the MoD move. I'm guessing that this would have been in part to the rise of the SNP in 1974 and the Margo effect.

Really? The only one of any significance I'm aware of is the APC, that and a number of TA units.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Really? The only one of any significance I'm aware of is the APC, that and a number of TA units.

Kentigern House was one I was thinking of that jumped to mind. But that may also be APC. As Doonie said - folks from MoD London brought up to Glasgow back then and taken around Glasgow in bus tours etc. Nope - they didn't fancy Glasgow so wouldn't move. Did they not build the first fancy riverside flats down Lancefield Quay way for the MoD staff - largely to show them the sort of City Centre properties that would be available to rent and buy? I may be imagineering that.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I remember one old bodger trying to explain that one reason for not selecting Glasgow was the shortage of suitable public schools in Scotland for the children of officers.
The interviewer then said that he thought The Duke of Edinburgh was rather impressed with the education Prince Charles received at Gordonston.

 

[stevie_r]

Kentigern House was one I was thinking of that jumped to mind. But that may also be APC. As Doonie said - folks from MoD London brought up to Glasgow back then and taken around Glasgow in bus tours etc. Nope - they didn't fancy Glasgow so wouldn't move. Did they not build the first fancy riverside flats down Lancefield Quay way for the MoD staff - largely to show them the sort of City Centre properties that would be available to rent and buy? I may be imagineering that.

Kentigern House in Brown St IS the APC.

With regards to the housing of military personnel based in Glasgow, married accompanied personnel live in Service Families Accomodation (married quarters), which are small groupings of properties in various areas of the city; nothing like the sprawling estates elsewhere. Mine for example was one of about 20 in Giffnock.

There is no single soldiers barrack accommodation in Glasgow. Singlies live in private flats, provided by numerous landlords but managed by a private agency. Once single towards the end of my time I had a superb trendy flat in the renovated old Co Op building in Morrison St.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Kentigern House in Brown St IS the APC.

With regards to the housing of military personnel based in Glasgow, married accompanied personnel live in Service Families Accomodation (married quarters), which are small groupings of properties in various areas of the city; nothing like the sprawling estates elsewhere. Mine for example was one of about 20 in Giffnock.

There is no single soldiers barrack accommodation in Glasgow. Singlies live in private flats, provided by numerous landlords but managed by a private agency. Once single towards the end of my time I had a superb trendy flat in the renovated old Co Op building in Morrison St.

OK - APC - check.

And as far as accommodation was concerned - the flats I mention down on Lancefield Quay were built (I think) to show MoD staff (who might relocate to Glasgow if the MoD relocated) alternative 'city' accommodation to our ubiquitous tenement flats - Glasgow tenements not being understood by outsiders. But I guess they weren't impressed.

 

[stevie_r]

OK - APC - check.

And as far as accommodation was concerned - the flats I mention down on Lancefield Quay were built (I think) to show MoD staff (who might relocate to Glasgow if the MoD relocated) alternative 'city' accommodation to our ubiquitous tenement flats - Glasgow tenements not being understood by outsiders. But I guess they weren't impressed.

I take it you mean Civilian MOD staff?

Lancefield quay is ok - given the choice between that and being 3 up in a tenement in tollcross where would you choose?

 

[JCW]

And stop saying British Open.... it's The Open and it always will be

Well said , that means no change with where the open is played , with regards to the other , if that's what they want then vote for it but its going to cost the scots extra in taxes ...........grass always looks better next door but is it , if its not broke , don't fix it .................................EYG

 

[Doon frae Troon]

There is a small village of fairly decent empty MOD houses at Prestwick.
The local council have been trying to adopt them for years but...... computer says no

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I remember one old bodger trying to explain that one reason for not selecting Glasgow was the shortage of suitable public schools in Scotland for the children of officers.
The interviewer then said that he thought The Duke of Edinburgh was rather impressed with the education Prince Charles received at Gordonston.

Little evidence that the education to which you refer was impressive or perhaps it was just the pupil.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Little evidence that the education to which you refer was impressive or perhaps it was just the pupil.

Most of the 'controversial' issues that Charles has raised have proved to have merit.

 

[stevie_r]

I remember one old bodger trying to explain that one reason for not selecting Glasgow was the shortage of suitable public schools in Scotland for the children of officers.
at Gordonston.

That will be the reason then

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Most of the 'controversial' issues that Charles has raised have proved to have merit.

I presume you are not including talking to plants within those 'controversial' issues. Sorry but IMO the man is full of new age twaddle and psycho babble.

Look at the issues surrounding his village in Dorset and Duchy Originals, but then I do have strong republican sympathies.