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c1973
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Aye,they play with such fire...................and brimstone.
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- Thread starter Doon frae Troon
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Aye,they play with such fire...................and brimstone.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Is that all
Well it beats your 2% of 10% by a bit I would think!!
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c1973
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Aye, whatever!
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
2% of 10% of what?
Old Skier
Tour Winner
And the Scotsman pops up
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ion-would-have-dollarisation-effect-1-3402979
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ion-would-have-dollarisation-effect-1-3402979
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Sorry, got you muddled with Cmacs posted figures of companies leaving Scotland
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Nae probs
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
For Info....no Joke.
The Hootsmon has the same circulation figures as the Potters Bar and Barnet Times.
Not a paper to be taken seriously.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
I don't take any of them seriously but these days circulation figures mean naff all due to tinternet.
Foxholer
Blackballed
You are, however, extremely selective about which facts though! So still spinning!
I understand - not 100% certain - that while there is an 'out' via appeal, subsequent discretionary assistance is at the devolved authority's cost. The Scottish Government is actually covering that cost in Scotland btw. The 'Bedroom Tax' (note the quotes!) - spun, unsuccessfully, by IDS as 'spare bedroom subsidy' - is one of the examples jumped on by the Scottish nationalists as inappropriate to Scotland and part of the reason why Scotland should be independent - so quite relevant to a Scottish Independence debate!
Doon frae Troon
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Quite agree.
It is a big + for the yes voters.
That is why Westminster did their U turn.
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By constantly referring to it as the"Bedroom Tax", irrespective of the use of quotes, you are equally guilty of spinning.
One of the oldest tricks in political PR is to excuse oneself by claiming to be merely quoting another source.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Central Government does supply a small pot of gold to local authorities to cover successful appeals.
Don't get me wrong, dealing with people on a voluntary basis I do meet some who have a legitimate need for a room that is neither spare or not required due to illness but unfortunately because of the attitude of some, the policy is an easy target to get plenty of backing from your average citizen.
Im sure giving in on this issue, whether it's SNP or any other party, would secure votes for most hair brained schemes.
Not sure where I am being selective with the facts, I just indicated that there is no legislation covering a spare bedroom tax.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Perhaps. But The Community Charge just doesn't seem to have quite the same impact (negative or positive) as Poll Tax.
In future, I shall try to call it by its slightly more official name - 'under-occupancy penalty'! Of course, it only uses the number of Bedrooms, so the popularisation is pretty apt imo. Though maybe the Beeb's approach is better '.... bedroom tax/spare room subsidy/under-occupancy penalty (delete as appropriate)...'!
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
About 30% UKIP share of vote in European elections suggests some MPs for UKIP in next Westminster GenElect and at same time a reduction in Conservative MPs suggests a Tory/UKIP coalition. Now that's an attractive prospect for Scottish voters to ponder when it comes to September 18th.
ger147
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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...and...?
I am quite aware that UKIP now have a MEP in Scotland (10% of Scottish vote). I was talking about Westminster and a Tory/UKIP coalition government. Anyway go ahead and tell me that that would be welcomed by most Scots voters and that it won't be an issue that they'll consider.
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c1973
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UKIP vote will probably go down at the general election, bear in mind that's a first past the post system as well, no PR there. I reckon there is more chance of a Labour/ Others coalition tbh.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
UKIP won't win a single seat at next years GE. England have used the Euro elections to make a point.No way they'll do that for Westminster.And given the % of turnout all over The UK I'm even less bothered.
The only thing that bothers me is the insanely disproportionate level of media coverage they get.If the Green party got the same level of media time they'd trounce UKIP.
The only thing that bothers me is the insanely disproportionate level of media coverage they get.If the Green party got the same level of media time they'd trounce UKIP.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
Very much this.
I believe I saw graphs showing that UKIP actually declined in votes (can't actually remember where, so I may be mistaken), but the Green party get little to no airtime, annoying. I'm not a green supporter, but would like to see more of them in the news!
