Scotland Debate

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I see Wasteminster have allowed Scottish devolution from the 'bedroom tax' bill.

Everyone seems quiet on that one.

Which is interesting as Social Security and Benefits are reserved powers whereas housing is devolved. So a grey area becoming more devolved it appears - though how that is taken into consideration with other reserved benefits an individual might receive I don't know. Rather looks like Scots who would have lost benefit (from Westminster) through having 'extra' bedrooms no longer will.

 

[Old Skier]

Which is interesting as Social Security and Benefits are reserved powers whereas housing is devolved. So a grey area becoming more devolved it appears - though how that is taken into consideration with other reserved benefits an individual might receive I don't know. Rather looks like Scots who would have lost benefit (from Westminster) through having 'extra' bedrooms no longer will.

The extra room issues was always devolved down to local authorities to decide who pays and who doesn't so no change there then. Shame people don't know that and are happy blaming the government.

 

[Val]

Interesting statement from the CEO of Aberdeen asset management Martin Gilbert who suggested companies who took a position faced "quite a lot of resentment"

I've said it all along on this thread, there are major companies scared to show their hand but they will in time I'm sure.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

The extra room issues was always devolved down to local authorities to decide who pays and who doesn't so no change there then. Shame people don't know that and are happy blaming the government.

Are you sure about that?
Why would the government issue a statement if that was the case.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Yup
Scottish government has funded the bill but the Con/Dems have now binned it for Scotland.
Power to ra peeple.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...t-given-power-to-end-bedroom-tax-9320374.html

 

[Old Skier]

Are you sure about that?
Why would the government issue a statement if that was the case.

I am not sure about Scotland but it has always been open to appeal in England giving the local authorities discretion as to whether they implement or not.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I am not sure about Scotland but it has always been open to appeal in England giving the local authorities discretion as to whether they implement or not.

I think that is like Scotland, provided that they can fund that choice out of their existing budgets.

 

[Old Skier]

I think that is like Scotland, provided that they can fund that choice out of their existing budgets.

Cheers, just was not sure if it was also devolved down to local authority level.

 

[CMAC]

UK Businesses fear Scottish Independence.

1 in 5 Scottish companies would consider moving away if independent

10% would consider moving away.

8% said they Definitely would move away

http://www.hiltonbaird.co.uk/Busine...c+dPokWtpMx+woj96NmF6dy6wsWd8tYoFd6jcrMkw7qU7

 

[Foxholer]

The extra room issues was always devolved down to local authorities to decide who pays and who doesn't so no change there then. Shame people don't know that and are happy blaming the government.

Tosh!

That's the sort of spin worthy of a Press Secretary!

Given that the 'Bedroom Tax' was introduced by an Act of Parliament - The Welfare Reform Act 2012 - it is entirely the Government's 'fault'. Any devolution/delegation to LAs is purely as an implementation method!

So any blame (or credit) should be squarely aimed at the instigator - the Government!

 

[Old Skier]

Tosh!

That's the sort of spin worthy of a Press Secretary!

Given that the 'Bedroom Tax' was introduced by an Act of Parliament - The Welfare Reform Act 2012 - it is entirely the Government's 'fault'. Any devolution/delegation to LAs is purely as an implementation method!

So any blame (or credit) should be squarely aimed at the instigator - the Government!

Blame who you like. I only deal in facts. True the the Governement introduced the legislation (don't remember any tax legislation on a bedroom though) and the same legislation gave local authorities the descretion after appeal on who to help or ignore but as this is about Scottish Independance perhaps this is the wrong place to debate this.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Blame who you like. I only deal in facts. True the the Governement introduced the legislation (don't remember any tax legislation on a bedroom though) and the same legislation gave local authorities the descretion after appeal on who to help or ignore but as this is about Scottish Independance perhaps this is the wrong place to debate this.

Not really, we are still smarting about being guinea pigs for the Poll Tax.
Bedroom tax was introduced to solve a specific London based problem. It does not switch to places like Dundee, Truro or Morecombe.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I realise this thread has had over 2000 replies and I have not contributed to it yet so I feel left out. So can I say I am English but I really like some Scottish bands like The Blue Nile, Mogwai and The Manic Street Preachers. Not a great deal else to add to the debate.

 

[Old Skier]

Not really, we are still smarting about being guinea pigs for the Poll Tax.
Bedroom tax was introduced to solve a specific London based problem. It does not switch to places like Dundee, Truro or Morecombe.

Poll Tax - funny that. Still used down here and half those that mention it wern't even born when it was in use. Shows how one bad policy can stick for life.

Not sure why you feel its a problem specific to London. On the other side, how many builders these days build one bed properties. Another own goal in the eyes of some.

 

[Val]

UK Businesses fear Scottish Independence.

1 in 5 Scottish companies would consider moving away if independent

10% would consider moving away.

8% said they Definitely would move away

http://www.hiltonbaird.co.uk/Busine...c+dPokWtpMx+woj96NmF6dy6wsWd8tYoFd6jcrMkw7qU7

That is not a surprise

 

[CMAC]

That is not a surprise

I saw the Herald on Sunday published 100 companies that WANT independence..............

 

[c1973]

I realise this thread has had over 2000 replies and I have not contributed to it yet so I feel left out. So can I say I am English but I really like some Scottish bands like The Blue Nile, Mogwai and The Manic Street Preachers. Not a great deal else to add to the debate.

Manic Street Preachers, Scottish????

Welsh methinks.

You might be thinking of the Wee Free Preachers.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Manic Street Preachers, Scottish????

Welsh methinks.

You might be thinking of the Wee Free Preachers.

Really??? I just heard them on TV and couldn't understand a word they were saying so I assumed they were Scottish. Oh well, every day's a school day....

 

[Doon frae Troon]

You might be thinking of the Wee Free Preachers.

The Wee Frees, what a great soul band they are.

Manics....was one of their songs not called....... I'm So Glad I'm Not English?

 

[Val]

I saw the Herald on Sunday published 100 companies that WANT independence..............

Is that all