rules on bunker play

[miguel7]

what is the ruling on ball in bunker full of water?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Play the ball as it lies or choose to drop within the hazard out of the water. If you choose to drop outside the hazard it is a one shot penalty

 

[TonyN]

Not entirley sure on this one.

Doesn't really help that my club makes all bunker GUR in winter and gives a free drop behind, keeping bunker between ball and flag.

 

[viscount17]

Rule 25-1 Abnormal Ground Conditions

(ii) In a Bunker: If the ball is in a bunker, the player must lift the ball and drop it either:

(a) Without penalty, in accordance with Clause (i) above, except that the nearest point of relief must be in the bunker and the ball must be dropped in the bunker or, if complete relief is impossible, as near as possible to the spot where the ball lay, but not nearer the hole, on a part of the course in the bunker that affords maximum available relief from the condition; or

(b) Under penalty of one stroke, outside the bunker keeping the point where the ball lay directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped, with no limit to how far behind the bunker the ball may be dropped.

 

[RGuk]

I say, spark up a fat one and crack open a San Miguel, Miguel....then get wet.....

Take it easy!!

Homer's answered on my behalf.

 

[Herbie]

Homer is right though you should always check with local rules in adverse conditions.

 

[CarpeDiem]

If the bunker is totally full of water should the course be in play?

 

[viscount17]

why not? you don't plan to play in them do you?

 

[Imurg]

Probably not, but on my course the rest of the course is usually ok even if the bunkers are overflowing.

 

[CarpeDiem]

why not? you don't plan to play in them do you?

Fair Point Viscount but if your ball is in the middle of a large bunker that is flooded and the rake doesn't reach. Rather than walk in to get it, can you drop a new one?

 

[viscount17]

presumably we're talking dropping outside the bunker with the penalty, so why not?

 

[miguel7]

like your style.

 

[Dave3498]

why not? you don't plan to play in them do you?

Fair Point Viscount but if your ball is in the middle of a large bunker that is flooded and the rake doesn't reach. Rather than walk in to get it, can you drop a new one?

You have to identify it as your ball first of all, or your markers and playing partners have to agree that your ball did in fact go in the bunker, otherwise you have to assume it's a lost ball and play stroke and distance. You can drop a new one.

 

[Cernunnos]

Not entirley sure on this one.

Doesn't really help that my club makes all bunker GUR in winter and gives a free drop behind, keeping bunker between

ball and flag.

Indeed.. drop in the bunker free so the does not interfere with striking the ball or stance with standing water, or out of the bunker under penaly of one stroke, that is unless the course has decreed the paricular bunker in question GUR & then the ball may be dropped free behind the bunker inline with the pin.

Anywhere that is GUR involves a free drop no nearer the hole.

 

[DCB]

Anywhere that is GUR involves a free drop no nearer the hole.

Not strictly correct, there is that wee phrase, Nearest Point of Relief.

Nearest Point of Relief
The “nearest point of relief” is the reference point for taking relief
without penalty from interference by an immovable obstruction (Rule
24-2), an abnormal ground condition (Rule 25-1) or a wrong putting
green (Rule 25-3).
It is the point on the course nearest to where the ball lies:
(i) that is not nearer the hole, and
(ii) where, if the ball were so positioned, no interference by the condition from which relief is sought would exist for the stroke the player would have made from the original position if the condition were not there.
Note: In order to determine the nearest point of relief accurately, the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke if the condition were not there to simulate the address position, direction of play and swing for such a stroke.

And in taking relief , you have to take full relief from the condition.

 

[Cernunnos]

Thanks DBC... Thankyou for clarifying... As Although the nearest point of relief plus relief is something most of us would do, we tend to forget to quote the full thing even if we'd do it. And those that haven't come across this before would have been little wiser from the likes of my sweeping statement...lol

Therefore I apologise for my remise.

 

[Herbie]

Anywhere that is GUR involves a free drop no nearer the hole.

Not strictly correct, there is that wee phrase, Nearest Point of Relief.

Nearest Point of Relief
The “nearest point of relief” is the reference point for taking relief
without penalty from interference by an immovable obstruction (Rule
24-2), an abnormal ground condition (Rule 25-1) or a wrong putting
green (Rule 25-3).
It is the point on the course nearest to where the ball lies:
(i) that is not nearer the hole, and
(ii) where, if the ball were so positioned, no interference by the condition from which relief is sought would exist for the stroke the player would have made from the original position if the condition were not there.
Note: In order to determine the nearest point of relief accurately, the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke if the condition were not there to simulate the address position, direction of play and swing for such a stroke.

And in taking relief , you have to take full relief from the condition.

To give a correct answer to this question is above, I do hope the golf quiz exponants in another thread realise what a golf quiz on RULES really involves with almost any question?
One rule links to another and is referenced within and for other rules. Nightmare!

 

[Cernunnos]

....Until the book disapears up its own index...rofl.