Rakes. Where to leave them

[jim8flog]

What are the negatives of 2/3rds in, 1/3 out please?

Only one I can think of is the time it will take a green keeper to get off the mower and move the rake, add that time up for every bunker on the course to work out how many man hours will be spent just moving rakes (the main ethos for not leaving rakes anywhere outside of the bunker).

 

[jim8flog]

Our rakes are often found in the local canal, sometimes the bushes - all thanks to the local teenagers who think they're hilarious!

I don't recommend the canal as a storing place though, ruins the rakes.

Our 9 hole course is close to the river and the course itself floods from time to time, we use the plastic hollow headed rakes and there have been countless times I have picked the rakes up from the river banks or somewhere they should not be

 

[Starter]

Only one I can think of is the time it will take a green keeper to get off the mower and move the rake, add that time up for every bunker on the course to work out how many man hours will be spent just moving rakes (the main ethos for not leaving rakes anywhere outside of the bunker).

Very little is the answer to how much time will be taken moving rakes .

The areas surrounding greenside bunkers are often mown by hand so rakes can be put inside bunkers whilst this takes place and then returned to the edge of the bunkers once the green staff have finished raking.

 

[KenL]

Our rakes (over 100 of them) have a circular collar near the handle with a sign saying “please place rakes in the bunker”. Even this gets ignored by some.

 

[jim8flog]

Very little is the answer to how much time will be taken moving rakes .

The areas surrounding greenside bunkers are often mown by hand so rakes can be put inside bunkers whilst this takes place and then returned to the edge of the bunkers once the green staff have finished raking.

Where I play virtually everywhere is mown on some sort of machine, including the greens.

It is not the time to move one rake but the time to stop the machine get off the machine start the machine at every bunker on a course maybe twice according to how you want it done. We have nearly 50 bunkers on our course some with two rakes. You are talking about man hours of extra work.

Also imagine the frustration of players on a par 3 tee with 4 bunkers on the hole having to wait for the green keeper to finish the mowing getting on and off at every bunker.

 

[Starter]

Where I play virtually everywhere is mown on some sort of machine, including the greens.

It is not the time to move one rake but the time to stop the machine get off the machine start the machine at every bunker on a course maybe twice according to how you want it done. We have nearly 50 bunkers on our course some with two rakes. You are talking about man hours of extra work.

Also imagine the frustration of players on a par 3 tee with 4 bunkers on the hole having to wait for the green keeper to finish the mowing getting on and off at every bunker.

We have a similar number of bunkers and our green staff do not find it a problem.

But then I don't think that they would recognise the long winded and inefficient process you describe.

 

[jim8flog]

We have a similar number of bunkers and our green staff do not find it a problem.

But then I don't think that they would recognise the long winded and inefficient process you describe.

Greenstaff are not usually responsible for budgets and will just do what they are told to do.

 

[sunshine]

The greenkeeper operating it can.

I don't think you understand the point. A robot mower isn't operated by a greenkeeper, it's a robot, but it doesn't have arms to move a rake.

 

[bobmac]

Only one I can think of is the time it will take a green keeper to get off the mower and move the rake, add that time up for every bunker on the course to work out how many man hours will be spent just moving rakes (the main ethos for not leaving rakes anywhere outside of the bunker).

The clubs I've belonged to, when the green staff cut the fringes, they also rake the bunkers

 

[hambugerpete]

I don't think you understand the point. A robot mower isn't operated by a greenkeeper, it's a robot, but it doesn't have arms to move a rake.

I very much understand the point, it's a remote controlled mower so has a controller who could moves the rakes. If it's autonomous, which I doubt those large ones are. Then it has to be able to avoid obstructions, whether that be a rake, a large branch fallen or a forgotten golf club.

 

[CountLippe]

I very much understand the point, it's a remote controlled mower so has a controller who could moves the rakes. If it's autonomous, which I doubt those large ones are. Then it has to be able to avoid obstructions, whether that be a rake, a large branch fallen or a forgotten golf club.

They're set up via GPS to cut predetermined areas, work 24/7 except to recharge which they do automatically. I fully expect them to become the norm over the next few years as they are more economical than a ride on mower, even before you take into account the cost of the greenkeeper who sits on the mower.

 

[hambugerpete]

They're set up via GPS to cut predetermined areas, work 24/7 except to recharge which they do automatically. I fully expect them to become the norm over the next few years as they are more economical than a ride on mower, even before you take into account the cost of the greenkeeper who sits on the mower.

I'm sure they'll play a large part in golf course maintenance, still no reason to not have rakes outside of a bunker. As ever these threads always require a number of what if scenarios to prove a point.

 

[Starter]

The clubs I've belonged to, when the green staff cut the fringes, they also rake the bunkers

That's two of us then Bob.

 

[jim8flog]

The clubs I've belonged to, when the green staff cut the fringes, they also rake the bunkers

On our maintenance schedule the bunkers are only done twice a week and yes the very fringe say first few inches will also be done by hand.

The other cutting will get done more than twice a week. Just away from it, beyond the few inches, depends on the bunker position, grass next to the green or bunker will be done when the grass cut to fairway height is done done by a sit on mower. Where there is grass cut to 1st cut length it it will be done when the first cut is done also by sit on mower.

 

[sunshine]

I very much understand the point, it's a remote controlled mower so has a controller who could moves the rakes. If it's autonomous, which I doubt those large ones are. Then it has to be able to avoid obstructions, whether that be a rake, a large branch fallen or a forgotten golf club.

No you still haven't got it

 

[Starter]

On our maintenance schedule the bunkers are only done twice a week .....

What?!!

 

[sunshine]

Imagine a none golfer reading this thread

I'm glad at least one person on this forum is self aware

 

[hambugerpete]

No you still haven't got it

Then please do explain

 

[bobmac]

Then please do explain

At a guess, you're talking about a mower being controlled remotely and he's talking about a robot mower which has no controller...a bit like the robot vacuum

 

[hambugerpete]

At a guess, you're talking about a mower being controlled remotely and he's talking about a robot mower which has no controller...a bit like the robot vacuum

Makes no odds to either way.