Rule 6-6b

[Frankd]

Hi, I was recently disqualified under rule 6-6b for not having my name on card. I had date, comp, handicap on card. My playing partner put my christian name only at top and i never completed it.
Can you be disqualified fir this?

 

[rulefan]

Hi, I was recently disqualified under rule 6-6b for not having my name on card. I had date, comp, handicap on card. My playing partner put my christian name only at top and i never completed it.
Can you be disqualified fir this?

NO. It is the Committee's responsibility to put your name on the card. They cannot require you to.

[h=3]33-5. Score Card[/h]In stroke play, the Committee must provide each competitor with a score card containing the date and the competitor's name or, in foursome or four-ball stroke play, the competitors' names.

Note: The Committee may request that each competitor records the date and his name on his score card.

 

[Frankd]

Thanks rulefan

 

[backwoodsman]

NO. It is the Committee's responsibility to put your name on the card. They cannot require you to.

[h=3]33-5. Score Card[/h]In stroke play, the Committee must provide each competitor with a score card containing the date and the competitor's name or, in foursome or four-ball stroke play, the competitors' names.

Note: The Committee may request that each competitor records the date and his name on his score card.

Am l missing something obvious? If the committee are obliged (by the use of "must" in r33-5) to provide a competitor with a card with his name on it, then what is the point of the note which says they may ask the competitor to enter their name on it? Surely, they must have already done it.

 

[rulie]

Am l missing something obvious? If the committee are obliged (by the use of "must" in r33-5) to provide a competitor with a card with his name on it, then what is the point of the note which says they may ask the competitor to enter their name on it? Surely, they must have already done it.

It's just clarifying that it is the Committee's responsibility and it cannot be delegated to the player and the player cannot be penalized for not putting his name on the card.

 

[rulefan]

Am l missing something obvious? If the committee are obliged (by the use of "must" in r33-5) to provide a competitor with a card with his name on it, then what is the point of the note which says they may ask the competitor to enter their name on it? Surely, they must have already done it.

The Rules makers recognise that in a lot of clubs, it wasn't (and in some it still isn't) practicable for the committee to write all the cards out themselves beforehand. Players may well be entering all through the day and committees may not have a presence all day. The exception simply allows committees to ask players to enter their own name on their own cards for convenience. It is made clear that the committee cannot penalise the player for not doing so.

 

[backwoodsman]

It's just clarifying that it is the Committee's responsibility and it cannot be delegated to the player and the player cannot be penalized for not putting his name on the card.

The Rules makers recognise that in a lot of clubs, it wasn't (and in some it still isn't) practicable for the committee to write all the cards out themselves beforehand. Players may well be entering all through the day and committees may not have a presence all day. The exception simply allows committees to ask players to enter their own name on their own cards for convenience. It is made clear that the committee cannot penalise the player for not doing so.

Ok. Ta.

 

[cliveb]

Something that confuses me is this: if a card is handed in without a name on it, how is the committee supposed to know whose score it is? (Note that not every signature is legible - I know mine isn't)

If they just ignore it, that is tantamount to DQ'ing the player, which we know they're not allowed to do. Is the committee really expected to move heaven & earth to find out whose card it is?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

In competitions my club prints your competitor number on your scorecard - so no risk of not knowing who the player is regardless of the name he sticks at the top of his card - it's the competitor number that identifies the player. Must still be signed...

 

[rulefan]

Something that confuses me is this: if a card is handed in without a name on it, how is the committee supposed to know whose score it is? (Note that not every signature is legible - I know mine isn't)

If they just ignore it, that is tantamount to DQ'ing the player, which we know they're not allowed to do. Is the committee really expected to move heaven & earth to find out whose card it is?

If they can't fulfill their obligation, then yes.
But it shouldn't be difficult to identify the player or the marker from their signature.

They can introduce a disciplinary process as a disincentive as in 6-6b/8.

 

[bobmac]

When I was the assistant pro in the shop it was my job to fill in the details on the card for comps, all 150 of them.
Name, h/cap, comp name, tee time.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Apart from Captain's Day and Opens our cards are always blank. You just pick one up from the large, generic pile and fill it in. I never realised this was a rule. Been the same at the three clubs I've been a member of.

Every day is a learning day.

 

[jim8flog]

Our seniors chairman always does it for the seniors comps. It does create a little bit of extra work for the office though as the first thing they have to do is to remove from the competition entry all those players that did not actually play which can be up to a third of the players when the weather has turned 'nasty' overnight on a Sunday. The seniors are very good at running their own comps and doing the card checking etc as players get back to the club house. If a player needs help to input the score on to the computer there is someone there to show them.

We do not usually bother for club comps except for Opens and Club majors such as the club championship. The basic problem comes with actually having someone with enough time and prepared to do it.

 

[nickjdavis]

If they can't fulfill their obligation, then yes.
But it shouldn't be difficult to identify the player or the marker from their signature.

I'm pretty sure you've had more than your fair share of cards to process to have had plenty of opportunities to see totally illegible signatures that render identification nigh on impossible. Hell... you should see some of the entry sheets we get... some players can't even PRINT their own names legibly!!!

We have three players at my club called Steve Williams.... two of them play off 16. We have 4 players who share the same surname who all play off 20 and at least another 7 pairs of golfers who share a surname and the same handicap.... and I haven even come to the Smiths yet!!!

Any sort of illegibility...and it gets worse in winter with soggy cards... and the poor committee member the has his work cut out at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon trying to triangulate the three cards from the playing group to figure who's card it is that they've got, when all they want to do is get home before the wife feeds their dinner to the dog.

Not entering your name on the card is simply inconsiderate and disrespectful to the many volunteers who give their time to administer golf club competitions.

 

[rulefan]

Not entering your name on the card is simply inconsiderate and disrespectful to the many volunteers who give their time to administer golf club competitions.

That's why your club should have a disciplinary regulation.

 

[NWJocko]

When I was the assistant pro in the shop it was my job to fill in the details on the card for comps, all 150 of them.
Name, h/cap, comp name, tee time.

Not sure if its the Pro or Assistant at ours that does it but we're spoiled and all our cards are prepared in this manner, ready and waiting for us in the pro shop. As and when you sign in for the comp handicap is checked as correct then off you go.

 

[rulefan]

Not sure if its the Pro or Assistant at ours that does it but we're spoiled and all our cards are prepared in this manner, ready and waiting for us in the pro shop. As and when you sign in for the comp handicap is checked as correct then off you go.

Some ISVs can print labels to stick on the cards