They are the sort of jobs you might expect an assistant to do, and traditional caddie tasks!
Rule 14-2b Assistance!
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MadAdey
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I thin what is being highlighted is where do you stpo with preventing caddies from helping. Like Bob highlighted standing behind during the swing is the position a coach would normally take to look for swing faults, so standing there can be considered coaching. But I think as soon as we go down the route of stopping caddies from giving information then it will get to the point that a player can't even talk to his caddy incase he accidently gives the talks abouthis next, or previous shots. If you prevented the caddie from doing anything then would it not hen be an infraction if he got his players putter out of the bag without him asking for it, or passes him his driver walking to the tee? I know that sounds a little bit stupid, but do you see my point?
One Planer
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They are the sort of jobs you might expect an assistant to do, and traditional caddie tasks!
As I understand it, a caddies job is to help his player hit a shot that gives the best possible outcome.
If that means 'checking' his alignment, then that's part of the above statement.
The player and caddy will have a clear understanding what they want from eachother. If a caddy is checking a players alignment, that will be because the player has asked him/her to.
Being the good assistant the caddy does it.
As Bob has eluded to earlier in the thread. The Caddy may be checking a players posture, perhaps in light of issues in that area. Just because the stand behind then move away doesn't instantly mean checking alignment.
We are only talking about 'assistance' within the meaning in rule 14-2 here, which at the moment is only prohibited while the player actually makes his shot. I am suggesting bringing that forward to the moment when the player takes his stance, which would prevent the lining up thing. All other caddie functions would not be affected.
BTatHome
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So he can still stand to the "traditional position that a caddie should take" and provide coaching from there?
North Mimms
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I'm not bothered about caddies reading putts or alignment (within the rules) as long as all this doesn't take too long.
What I would like to see is the professional game taking pace of play seriously, and how long players take over a shot being kept within sensible guidelines.
I've read somewhere that 40 seconds is the aim.
It's up the the player and caddie as to how they use that time - discussing yardages, club selection alignment , whatever.
Just do it quicker!
What I would like to see is the professional game taking pace of play seriously, and how long players take over a shot being kept within sensible guidelines.
I've read somewhere that 40 seconds is the aim.
It's up the the player and caddie as to how they use that time - discussing yardages, club selection alignment , whatever.
Just do it quicker!
Please read Rule 14-2b. As long as he does not stand directly behind the line of play while the player makes his stroke, yes I suppose he can. However I think that most tour pros employ expensive swing coaches off the course for that sort of thing.
HawkeyeMS
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I never thought I'd say it but reading yet another delc thread makes me yearn for the "Look how well I played" or "I got cut" threads.
Man I hope the rain stops soon so we can all get back out playing golf and talking about that
Man I hope the rain stops soon so we can all get back out playing golf and talking about that
chrisd
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Be careful Hawkeye, today he's accused me of having a vendetta against him!
How about a nice refreshing " recommend me a waterproof suit" thread
HawkeyeMS
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Slab
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Can’t say it’s the easiest thread to follow but have I got this... I’m allowed to have my caddy stand behind my line only if on the putting green and providing I’m using a claw grip on a long handle putter but they must move before my stroke unless I happen to be standing on a white line for GUR in which case he can’t say anything but he can remain there during the backswing but only where he assisted with the alignment of the shot otherwise he must move to the usual caddy coaching position?
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Not true. I was drawn against a Spanish guy in the Eden tournament at St Andrews a couple of years ago and he had a pro caddying for him. I thought the same and queried it but was told by the tournament referee it was allowed.
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How does it work if your caddy is also your coach...as I believe is the case with Jason day?
Can they coach between shots, advise on issues they have spotted during the round?
Can they coach between shots, advise on issues they have spotted during the round?
Foxholer
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What you need then is a Caddie to sort out the distance, determine the right club to use and line you up. Then 'bingo' all your problems will be solved. I figure ShivasIrons would be be ideal - at least for some of us!
Yep. Perfectly acceptable - though often inadvisable, as 'the course is not the place for a lesson'!
Committee can have a 'rule' (actually part of Conditions of Comp) preventing coaches (or parents) from caddying (or even following the player!), but that's only seen in Junior comps
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Just normal 4 1/4" ones.What size holes do you use at your club?
rickg
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Not really....that doesn't look too bad.....but this?!!!!
hideous!!!! 
No place on a golf course in my opinion.........25 seniors using it at Batchworth??!! God help us!
bobmac
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Either the referee got it wrong or the rules have changed in the last 10 years.
Or he was a pro caddy
My grip is more like Sergio Garcia's now, with only one finger on top.Not really....that doesn't look too bad.....but this?!!!!
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No place on a golf course in my opinion.........25 seniors using it at Batchworth??!! God help us!
rickg
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