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A question for the experts, what constitutes a forward pass these days? DuPont, for the 3rd try, passed it from the 5 metre line and it was caught a yard or so short of the try line by the winger but the try was still given. Is this ok nowadays?
 
A question for the experts, what constitutes a forward pass these days? DuPont, for the 3rd try, passed it from the 5 metre line and it was caught a yard or so short of the try line by the winger but the try was still given. Is this ok nowadays?
It's been an issue for a few years, along with squiffy line outs and feeding the scrum.
 
It's been an issue for a few years, along with squiffy line outs and feeding the scrum.
Odd really as the ref has just given a scrum for a forward pass that was a few centrimetres forward but admittedly right in front of him.
The DuPont one surprised me as you would have thought it would have been reviewed by the TMO as it was a try.
 
A question for the experts, what constitutes a forward pass these days? DuPont, for the 3rd try, passed it from the 5 metre line and it was caught a yard or so short of the try line by the winger but the try was still given. Is this ok nowadays?
It's a relativity thing. If you're moving fast enough you can throw something backwards or sideways but it goes forwards - remember if you ever threw a ball or something while riding a bike.
They judge it from the direction it was thrown rather than the direction it ended up going.
Personally, I think it's BS and he wasn't running fast enough to justify its direction because it looked like the ball overtook where he'd have been if he carried on running.
 
When I were a lad………..the Referee was always keen to make sure that the ball was put into the scrum down the middle. This seems to be totally ignored or deliberately allowed not to be the case now. Has there been a rule change?
 
When I were a lad………..the Referee was always keen to make sure that the ball was put into the scrum down the middle. This seems to be totally ignored or deliberately allowed not to be the case now. Has there been a rule change?
Feeding the scrum has become so common now, they might as well do away with scrums.
 
The pass was thrown from short of the 5-metre line. The pass is received from 2 metres beyond the 5-metre line.
The thrower's forward motion has stayed well ahead of the ball and the receiver was well behind the thrower at the time the pass was thrown and when it was received.
The pass travelled forward relative to the ground by about 3 metres.

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Not a forward pass according to current interpretation of rules.

 
I found this article on line in the magazine Rugby World.

From 2017/18 season

  • The scrum-half must put the ball in straight to the scrum, but they are allowed to align their shoulder to the middle line of the scrum.
  • This means they are putting the ball in a shoulder’s width towards their own team’s side of the scrum.
  • So the ball has to be put in straight, but rather than being put in down the middle of the tunnel it is put in slightly towards the scrum-half’s own team.
  • The referee no longer signals when the scrum-half should put the ball in.
  • The aim is to promote a fair contest for possession while also giving an advantage to the team putting the ball into the scrum. In most cases the opposition will have infringed for that team to be awarded the put-in.
 
A hard won first half in Ireland. Can England keep defending at that level? Unless Ireland start getting scrappy you have to think that level of pressure will give in the end.
 
A hard won first half in Ireland. Can England keep defending at that level? Unless Ireland start getting scrappy you have to think that level of pressure will give in the end.

Ireland will up their standard in the second half - they just seem to be clicking as the moment , England really need to get some foot in the game and getting some phases going
 
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