shanker
Q-School Graduate
Sorry, Homer but I'm in a pedantic mood The word is ''elicit''. ''Illicit'' refers to naughty things. Feel free to tell me to ''f*** off''.
Regards
Shanker
Rudeness in the guise of Etiquette.
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Shanker
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Oh Shanker. If I followed up every little mistake people have made (spelling and grammar) I'd have made 20,000 posts by now!! Some of them are quite extraordinary. 
I know I've committed loads before I get flamed!!
Shanker!!!
F*** ***!!!
I know I've committed loads before I get flamed!!
Shanker!!!
F*** ***!!!
Spoff
Tour Rookie
Last year was playing my local 9 hole course. the three of us cleared the 8th green (par 4) as the next group hit their tee shots.
the first two of us played our tee shots on the ninth (par 3) my mate was over his ball on the tee and we had out back to the 8th when heard some noise.
Turned round and an old fella was coming towards us with an iron in hand shouting that we should have let him and his mate (who was back on the 8th fairway about to play his second shot) play though.
We questioned why as we were on the tee and they were not on the previous green and he took my mate by the throat spitting into his face that we should learn some golf ettiquette and respect our elders!!!
We advised he return to his game and stop showing himself up as the only person slowing play and not respecting etiquette was him.
He was reported after the round and intercepted and asked never to return.
the first two of us played our tee shots on the ninth (par 3) my mate was over his ball on the tee and we had out back to the 8th when heard some noise.
Turned round and an old fella was coming towards us with an iron in hand shouting that we should have let him and his mate (who was back on the 8th fairway about to play his second shot) play though.
We questioned why as we were on the tee and they were not on the previous green and he took my mate by the throat spitting into his face that we should learn some golf ettiquette and respect our elders!!!
We advised he return to his game and stop showing himself up as the only person slowing play and not respecting etiquette was him.
He was reported after the round and intercepted and asked never to return.
Fore
Head Pro
Slow play is frustrating when it becomes really slow but it does not move me to go and kick someones bag.
I find pushy players behind really infuriating, much worse than being held up by someone in front. If all someone wants to do is get off the course as quick as possible then maybe Golf is not the game for them. Why pay all the cost of green fees and buy equipment if your not going to saviour the moment. Clubs do not always help by having tee off times too close to each other. My club is 6 minutes apart which i feel could maybe be a bit longer than that, or maybe adjusted to suit the amount of players going out together and leaving a longer gap behind them the more players there are teeing off together.
I find pushy players behind really infuriating, much worse than being held up by someone in front. If all someone wants to do is get off the course as quick as possible then maybe Golf is not the game for them. Why pay all the cost of green fees and buy equipment if your not going to saviour the moment. Clubs do not always help by having tee off times too close to each other. My club is 6 minutes apart which i feel could maybe be a bit longer than that, or maybe adjusted to suit the amount of players going out together and leaving a longer gap behind them the more players there are teeing off together.
Parmo
Tour Winner
Last friday I walked off after 9, mainly due to 3 groups of ladies in front of a 4 and 3 ball slowing what should have been a 3 1/2 hr round to what was looking at 2 1/2 hrs for 9 holes!!! then the same women started having a go at the bar staff because she had run out of bread for their toasties and telling her what to do and the likes.
They where reported and totally out of order for slow play and abusing the young totty behind the bar.
They where reported and totally out of order for slow play and abusing the young totty behind the bar.
vig
Tour Winner
Never had or witnessed such an act of petulence from a dodderer (no offence meant to posteres on here).
You did the right thing by not "chinning" him. I was always taught to respect my elders.
Personally I would have marched him back to his bag, bollocked him, then empty all his clubs, balls, tees etc out onto the floor and walk away.
I do not like slow play but rudeness is worse.
You did the right thing by not "chinning" him. I was always taught to respect my elders.
Personally I would have marched him back to his bag, bollocked him, then empty all his clubs, balls, tees etc out onto the floor and walk away.
I do not like slow play but rudeness is worse.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
My club has 8 minute gaps in competitions. The first is a long par 3 (226 yards) and the second a par 5. The extra wait at the first means most groups have already teed off and got to their balls on the 2nd as you hole out and that play is staggered nicely. Of course you do get hold ups especially in medals and so it is a chance to chat with your partners (especially if you haven't played with them before) and admire the view.
I think that quick play is becoming as much of a problem as slow play. We had a group at Temple last week (members) who told us (green fees) to let them through as we were holding the hole course up. My mates play off 26, 23 and 28 but were not slow and the fact we were on the tee and they hadn't even holed out seemed lost on them and that the group behind them hadn't even reached the green on the previous hole
The par 3 8th at Temple has BIG signs saying don't tee off until the 9th tee is clear. We were teeing off and suddenly there were shouts of fore and the ball landed over the tee box and rolled into the rough. That made our minds up that we would rather get kicked off than let them through and ironically a few holes later there was at least a hole and a half gap. We hadn't speeded up at all. If that is how members behave, trying to bully green fees to speed up no wonder green fee revenue is dwindling at many clubs.
I think that quick play is becoming as much of a problem as slow play. We had a group at Temple last week (members) who told us (green fees) to let them through as we were holding the hole course up. My mates play off 26, 23 and 28 but were not slow and the fact we were on the tee and they hadn't even holed out seemed lost on them and that the group behind them hadn't even reached the green on the previous hole
The par 3 8th at Temple has BIG signs saying don't tee off until the 9th tee is clear. We were teeing off and suddenly there were shouts of fore and the ball landed over the tee box and rolled into the rough. That made our minds up that we would rather get kicked off than let them through and ironically a few holes later there was at least a hole and a half gap. We hadn't speeded up at all. If that is how members behave, trying to bully green fees to speed up no wonder green fee revenue is dwindling at many clubs.
shanker
Q-School Graduate
Message taken, Imurg. I'm now f****** off into the sunset.Oh Shanker. If I followed up every little mistake people have made (spelling and grammar) I'd have made 20,000 posts by now!! Some of them are quite extraordinary.
I know I've committed loads before I get flamed!!
Shanker!!!
F*** ***!!!
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
And I accept the inadequacy of my limited school education and the wrong wording. Point taken
Herbie
Tour Winner
Ive been playing long enough to have seen this often over the years. Some people on the golf course are just like motorists who get wound up at the slightest thing and often it is their impatience selfishness or simple haste that is the rpoblem though they never see it.
Personally I wouldnt take a complete novice on the course when it was busy enough to cause a problem of any kind, I would wait for a quiet period or keep them to the range and other courses where there may be less of a problem until they got a reasonable grasp of the game.
Having said that, it was a learning curve for the novice, he now knows that golf courses contain A*******S! Miserable F*****S and trouble causers.
If you were routinely and correctly allowing players to play through and you were not interfering with a competition you were right and he was an a******e. I play at a brisk pace but I also know the average pace of a 2/3 or 4 ball group and accept it, if I come acrosss a particularly slow group I patiently wait till they let me through or I just accept it or leapfrog at the earliest, even in a 2 ball, I figure why the hell get all twisted up over a bit of time or missing a hole to get by them. Its only in competition that I get frustrated at slow play, or when I come across those deliberately slow and making no effort to wave through even when they are 2 or 3 holes down on the group ahead. Most of the time I find very very few occasions to be peeved but when they come along they usually involve people like you have described where a bloody good slap would be a blessing.
Dont misunderstand my view though cos I hate slow play as much as I hate a*******s like the one you described, slow play is for golfers who are ready to die in my view. Little movement to suggest they are alive.
Personally I wouldnt take a complete novice on the course when it was busy enough to cause a problem of any kind, I would wait for a quiet period or keep them to the range and other courses where there may be less of a problem until they got a reasonable grasp of the game.
Having said that, it was a learning curve for the novice, he now knows that golf courses contain A*******S! Miserable F*****S and trouble causers.
If you were routinely and correctly allowing players to play through and you were not interfering with a competition you were right and he was an a******e. I play at a brisk pace but I also know the average pace of a 2/3 or 4 ball group and accept it, if I come acrosss a particularly slow group I patiently wait till they let me through or I just accept it or leapfrog at the earliest, even in a 2 ball, I figure why the hell get all twisted up over a bit of time or missing a hole to get by them. Its only in competition that I get frustrated at slow play, or when I come across those deliberately slow and making no effort to wave through even when they are 2 or 3 holes down on the group ahead. Most of the time I find very very few occasions to be peeved but when they come along they usually involve people like you have described where a bloody good slap would be a blessing.
Dont misunderstand my view though cos I hate slow play as much as I hate a*******s like the one you described, slow play is for golfers who are ready to die in my view.
Little movement to suggest they are alive.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I always find that those that are ratlling round the course at the speed of light are normally those playing the worst golf and those in the clubhouse making the most noise about how the course is dreadful and the greens are a disgrace simply because they were too rushed to enjoy the round
TWM
Challenge Tour Pro
Robobum,
"Unfortunately, the senior section at some clubs would like to think that they are the sole reason the place is run in the 1st place and until the time comes when they are no longer able to play they will continue to frown on anyone daring to delay their uninterrupted passage through the course."
Please be aware that a significant number of members here are seniors. We do not own the club. We do not make a practise of throwing our weight around.
I am getting sick of hearing this type of comment here.
I am probably the oldest member here and I have seen all the bad behaviour you can imagine on various golf courses and this has come from all age ranges and both sexes.
Rant over.
"Unfortunately, the senior section at some clubs would like to think that they are the sole reason the place is run in the 1st place and until the time comes when they are no longer able to play they will continue to frown on anyone daring to delay their uninterrupted passage through the course."
Please be aware that a significant number of members here are seniors. We do not own the club. We do not make a practise of throwing our weight around.
I am getting sick of hearing this type of comment here.
I am probably the oldest member here and I have seen all the bad behaviour you can imagine on various golf courses and this has come from all age ranges and both sexes.
Rant over.
Parmo
Tour Winner
I play with seniors and drink with them, mostly the best people at the club, but I think most coms are made up of the snobby type of senior which create a sterotype.
Herbie
Tour Winner
I must add to this too, Bad behavior is not the domain of JUST the seniors, in fact if it were a % basis of each age group you would probably see it more from young to middle aged, as many golf clubs have lots of seniors as members the wrong view of seniors can be created by just a few gits who have been so all their lives.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I agree with the comments made by the older fraternity on here and concur that it is not just them that cause problems. I am my golfing partners have had run ins with juniors and other club members (not senior in years but in years at the club) who should know better.
theeaglehunter
Tour Winner
In further defence of senior golfers at my course all bar a very slight minority i.e 1 / 2 out of about 150 are a pleasure to golf / socialise with. There are always going to be people who think they own the course but these will appear in all age ranges from my experience. I think old people just come across as generally more grumpy to those more supple than them (jealousy ) , like I said though not in my experience.
) , like I said though not in my experience.Robobum
Money List Winner
Perhaps you have just shown that very kind of behaviour here then TWM?
If you had read the original post properly you will have seen that I had quantified it by putting SOME clubs' senior section! If you feel that applies to your senior section then yes, it is aimed at you. If not then please climb down off your soap box before you fall.
The original post referred to someone from the senior section so that was what my comment referred to.
BTW this isn't a rant it's just a reply, I don't see the point in ranting, perhaps when I'm a senior eh?
shanker
Q-School Graduate
How did you ''quantify'' it? You mean you ''qualified'' it?
Parmo
Tour Winner
"there maybe trouble ahead...."
*dances in his work chair*
*dances in his work chair*
Robobum
Money List Winner
How did you ''quantify'' it? You mean you ''qualified'' it?
Probably can use either, I was talking about a (some) number of clubs.
To qualify would attribute that "quality" to them.
If incorrect I bow to your superior knowledge of our language, innit!
