Nick_Toye
Challenge Tour Pro
yeah I was listening to the guys over the weekend in Valhalla talking about that.
Reading Greens
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yeah I was listening to the guys over the weekend in Valhalla talking about that.
So the guy says he can't work out if it goes left or right and you say imagine sky tracker (Aimpoint technology anyway) and take less break if you rap it. If he doesn't know what its going to do how's that helping? Also no good saying look at other balls roll if your furthest from the hole and putting first
Nick_Toye
Challenge Tour Pro
I was looking at this video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PDq1N0USRA
I can see how that would be useful, if I had the charts etc, but its finding where that dead straight putt is. This seems to be my core issue is not being able to see the details of the slope of a green. I'm hoping it will be something that comes with experience.
hovis
Tour Winner
Your not alone. I cant read greens for toffie. At the ping pro am i asked my pro "how much left to right have you got this?" his exact reply was "are you on smack? Its 3ft right to left all day"
My advice is to try not to look for a read on every put. If you cant make up your mind then go straight at the hole. I was told to stop looking for breaks that aren't there
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Nick_Toye
Challenge Tour Pro
I guess that is what I do sometimes.
I have 2.2 average so I must be doing some things right.
I have this app on my iPhone that uses the mechanics of the phone like a spirit level so it can give you an initial slope, but I can't rely on it and I'd look a tool pulling that out on greens around other people.
3565
Journeyman Pro
:rofl:Brilliant.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
how do you have such good putting stats and you don't know what way a ball breaks?
the guy telling you to get out there and just play is kind of right. the only way to improve at this is by trial and error. test yourself.
play by yourself. throw 5 balls in random spots on every green you get to. try and guess/ work out which way the ball will break (if at all).
do this the next 10 times you are out by yourself or even on the putting green.
if you haven't worked it out by then, go see a pro.
enjoy the challenge! :thup:
the guy telling you to get out there and just play is kind of right. the only way to improve at this is by trial and error. test yourself.
play by yourself. throw 5 balls in random spots on every green you get to. try and guess/ work out which way the ball will break (if at all).
do this the next 10 times you are out by yourself or even on the putting green.
if you haven't worked it out by then, go see a pro.
enjoy the challenge! :thup:
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Why ? Well because it's my opinion and believe it will be a waste of his money at the moment :thup:
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Just have to get onto a putting green and try different ways to look at the green - you can also look behind the hole or from the side
The best way is just trial and error and find what you feel is best for you
Learn how to read a green... waste of money. Whatever. As I said a putting lesson with a good PGA pro will also be a huge benefit on both the stroke and he should be able to give the OP some basics as well
Nick_Toye
Challenge Tour Pro
No idea, perhaps I get close to the flag on some approach shots. Or I was just lucky. My issue is I can never see the breaks, so law of averages suggest I will get it right some of the time.
I get the going out and practicing lark, it was the 'stop asking questions' that quite frankly pissed me off.
Nick, if I'm not sure of the break, a look from the behind the flag is usually a dead giveaway.......then trust it and its down to direction and pace.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
you are a stats man. having a 27 handicap, hitting close approaches and sinking lucky putts as you can not read them do not add up.
anyhoo, if you are not playing in a comp, until you grasp the art of green reading, you could ask you playing partner to confirm your read. you may disagree how wide of the cup to hit the putt (as that depends on pace) but the initial side to hit it (left or right) can be checked.
I used to do this with my mate when he first started out as it allowed him to just concentrate on getting the pace right without the nagging doubt in his mind of the read. he eventually got the hang of it and putts well now.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Read dave Pelz 'Putting Bible' There is a lot of information in the book and much is very good. For example, He suggests visualising things like pouring a bottle of water between you and the hole and how the water will run to get an idea of the way the green slopes.
Nick_Toye
Challenge Tour Pro
Good tip.
I can't explain it. I'm not fudging my stats, I have 2.2 average. I would never cheat myself because I do keep stats, would be pointless to do that and give myself less putts then I actually made.
I do tend to have 2nd putts inside 6ft, so if you think about it, I put from further out and it just ends up within a 6ft radius of the hole, which I tend to be able to hole more frequently. So I guess it's the initial putts from further out I am struggling with.
I still don't think that visualisation will help me as will still not be able to visualise the slope. I'll take a look anyway, there may be some golden stuff in there, and I'm all about the knowledge.
3565
Journeyman Pro
I'm an Aimpoint user and since using it over 3yrs ago, my stats for putting overall playing different courses is
1.75 per hole
1.86 per GIR
On Saturday they were 1.56 and 1.70 with 4 birdies.
Im not going to get into this Aimpoint thing with you as YOU and only you have to make your mind up if it's for you or not, I've just supplied my stats for you.
1.75 per hole
1.86 per GIR
On Saturday they were 1.56 and 1.70 with 4 birdies.
Im not going to get into this Aimpoint thing with you as YOU and only you have to make your mind up if it's for you or not, I've just supplied my stats for you.
Nick_Toye
Challenge Tour Pro
Well colour me intrigued regardless.
I have my lesson on Thursday so I will ask my coach what he thinks, I know he does some kind of putting clinic too. My way of thinking is I spent almost a grand on equipment for this game, so I shouldn't necessarily start scrimping on developing my game. I've invested too much to kind of scattergun my approach to development.
It's why I kind of ask loads of questions on here, I want to know how to do things, why things don't work, and to see if I am improving.
I know some golfers are maybe not as in depth as I am, and that's cool. I'm just very detail oriented, always have been.
Aimpoint is something I will look into.
Those stats look really good by the way, I had 3 putts today for birdies and missed everyone.
richart
Major Champion
If Aimpoint is the answer to reading greens, why do so few Pro's use it ? Surely they would use it if it gave them even the smallest advantage. Do the ones that do use it get paid to ?
I watched a Mark Crossfield video on youtube, and one of his Pro mates Steve Buzzard uses it. For a Pro he must be the worst putter I have seen. His green reading is awful, and he gets a lot of stick over his putting. Check out videos if you don't believe me.
Personally I think Aimpoint is another fad, like white drivers and stack and tilt.
I watched a Mark Crossfield video on youtube, and one of his Pro mates Steve Buzzard uses it. For a Pro he must be the worst putter I have seen. His green reading is awful, and he gets a lot of stick over his putting. Check out videos if you don't believe me.
Personally I think Aimpoint is another fad, like white drivers and stack and tilt.
Nick_Toye
Challenge Tour Pro
If Aimpoint is the answer to reading greens, why do so few Pro's use it ? Surely they would use it if it gave them even the smallest advantage. Do the ones that do use it get paid to ?
I watched a Mark Crossfield video on youtube, and one of his Pro mates Steve Buzzard uses it. For a Pro he must be the worst putter I have seen. His green reading is awful, and he gets a lot of stick over his putting. Check out videos if you don't believe me.
Personally I think Aimpoint is another fad, like white drivers and stack and tilt.
I seriously doubt a Masters winner would use a system just to get a little bit of extra cash.
User20205
Money List Winner
If Aimpoint is the answer to reading greens, why do so few Pro's use it ? Surely they would use it if it gave them even the smallest advantage. Do the ones that do use it get paid to ?
I watched a Mark Crossfield video on youtube, and one of his Pro mates Steve Buzzard uses it. For a Pro he must be the worst putter I have seen. His green reading is awful, and he gets a lot of stick over his putting. Check out videos if you don't believe me.
Personally I think Aimpoint is another fad, like white drivers and stack and tilt.
I'd say wise beyond your years but...
What rich says is correct, aim point is another way the golf industry have dreamt up to squeeze some cash from the gullable and desperate.
Putting is the same as any other facet of the game, you get good by practice
