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Employers would cope a lot better if they judged people on output and performance rather than number of hours spent in a set location. Obviously there's a balance to be struck, but I would be far more interested in whether or not someone is good and productive in their job than how long they're sat at their desk.
You are right but there is a morale issue to take into account. If someone is constantly coming in late it gets the back up of other workers, they will start to take advantage as they see a precedent being set etc.
 
Leaving the Forum for 5 months due to the increased number of trolls and the utterly repetitive drivel from the same few posters on almost every decent thread, only to come back to find out that not only has it not improved, it's actually got worse!

Oh well.. Happy Brexit day everyone (y)

What?

You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave ........
 
Finally heard from the boss. Looks as though we (the three of us) are to kept on until at least December as they (the top bosses) don't think the clowns (our customers) will be able to pull off their new logistical excercise and will be back begging for us to help. So we are to just doss about for a couple of months to see what will happen.
 
You are right but there is a morale issue to take into account. If someone is constantly coming in late it gets the back up of other workers, they will start to take advantage as they see a precedent being set etc.

Only a moral issue if the working environment encourages that mindset. If you take away the set in stone requirements around timing and move the focus more towards output and performance then these issues don't exist. There are still time management requirements for staff but the focus is on missing deadlines or being late for meetings rather than on not being in the office between the hours of 9 and 5.
 
Only a moral issue if the working environment encourages that mindset. If you take away the set in stone requirements around timing and move the focus more towards output and performance then these issues don't exist. There are still time management requirements for staff but the focus is on missing deadlines or being late for meetings rather than on not being in the office between the hours of 9 and 5.
I wouldn't disagree. It depends very much on what the job is, how it all works. You can not have a blanket approach either way.
 
Employers would cope a lot better if they judged people on output and performance rather than number of hours spent in a set location. Obviously there's a balance to be struck, but I would be far more interested in whether or not someone is good and productive in their job than how long they're sat at their desk.

i suppose the trouble is the majority of the central London workers rely on public transport, which is unreliable at best. when i worked in London, i caught an overland train from the sticks, when i first started there were pretty replyable (BR Thameslink)some years later when i stoped less so. even back in the 90 my employer had some sympathy if you were had to use PT, after all how else would you get to work?
 
You are right but there is a morale issue to take into account. If someone is constantly coming in late it gets the back up of other workers, they will start to take advantage as they see a precedent being set etc.

Thankfully I work in a completely output driven role. Turn up when I want, work however long I want, from where I want and take off whatever days I want. The caveat to that is I have to perform.

Hire correctly, trust your workforce and heavily incentivise over performance.

No way could I work in a 9-5 getting timed in and out.
 
Thankfully I work in a completely output driven role. Turn up when I want, work however long I want, from where I want and take off whatever days I want. The caveat to that is I have to perform.

Hire correctly, trust your workforce and heavily incentivise over performance.

No way could I work in a 9-5 getting timed in and out.

Same here, i once had a boss who said if you are hitting target, you can play golf 5 days a week, do what you want. But, if you are not hitting target, you are in the office or with clients.

I could not cope now with commuting or set hours.
 
One loud mouth brow beating a very good manager at work because she wasn’t granted a change of her working hours when her request was both against policy and not workable for the rest of her team.
 
One week on and the “kidney stones” line seems to be complete nonsense. She’s been in hospital most days since then in total agony and they just seem to want to fob her off. She had a CT scan which wasn’t clear enough so they wanted her to come back in today for more but now they’ve told her over the phone that they don’t think she merits another CT scan and antibiotics will probably fix whatever is wrong.

They haven’t even landed on a definitive diagnosis! WHAT THE HELL??
One further month on and still suffering from what they’ve now said is diverticulitis with a small perforation. Weekend break to Vilnius next weekend in doubt and one miserable woman who’s basically housebound.
 
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