Pro shop service

[Val]

Google golf professional retainer. The (hefty) retainer comes in at between "£15k and £20k and covers less than half the overheads." I know several clubs paying a lot less yet the club (members) still expect a gold standard professional service at High St/internet prices.

Is it any wonder so many professionals are finding something else to do for a living.

Take off the PAYE and all his other associated costs and the retainer ain't much for the work he has to do BEFORE he does anything for himself. Our clubs retainer is similar

It's not a job that will get you rich by any means, these guys get nothing but hassle for the prices of kit, juice, clothes etc etc. I feel unite sorry for ours at times.

 

[Hobbit]

Take off the PAYE and all his other associated costs and the retainer ain't much for the work he has to do BEFORE he does anything for himself. Our clubs retainer is similar

It's not a job that will get you rich by any means, these guys get nothing but hassle for the prices of kit, juice, clothes etc etc. I feel unite sorry for ours at times.

I know of one club that has just put its retainer up to £11.5k... laughable.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

But he doesn't, he makes nothing from it. He MAY make something from the kit you MAY buy from him afterwards, it's all hypothetical.

It's not hypothetical because whatever he sells the club for, that money goes into my pro shop account. I can't withdraw that money and spend it elsewhere, I have no option other than to spend it in his shop. So he is guaranteed some business from the transaction.

 

[Val]

It's not hypothetical because whatever he sells the club for, that money goes into my pro shop account. I can't withdraw that money and spend it elsewhere, I have no option other than to spend it in his shop. So he is guaranteed some business from the transaction.

For me the only one winning here is you, your pro has to do double the work for 1 sale of £100. Where he could possibly sell something new for more money and half the time.

 

[thecraw]

duncan

What is your problem?

I have a putter that I want to get rid of, let's say it is worth £100. I can sell it on ebay and then spend my cash anywhere I want on anything I want. Or I can ask my Pro to sell it in the shop and then credit my account with £100. That way he gets £100 or guaranteed business that he may not get if I spend my £100 elsewhere.

Bottom line is he is the one losing out. I'm not being unrealistic in my expectations, I think he isn't providing a quality service to his members.

Your the one with the problem. The pro is quite right and my local pro does likewise and I know of others in the area who don't entertain trade ins at all.

Get off your soap box, its a free country and your pro is entitled to run his business as he sees fit!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Your the one with the problem. The pro is quite right and my local pro does likewise and I know of others in the area who don't entertain trade ins at all.

Get off your soap box, its a free country and your pro is entitled to run his business as he sees fit!

I don't have a problem. I can get more for my putter privately and then spend that money on whatever I want. The way I see it, the pro has the problem because he is turning away custom. It's no skin off my nose, I get paid a decent salary every month, I don't have to fight for every scrap of business out there in these hard times.

His loss, not mine.

 

[Hobbit]

His loss, not mine.

Except when you haven't got a pro...

 

[chris661]

It's no skin off my nose, I get paid a decent salary every month, I don't have to fight for every scrap of business out there in these hard times.

His loss, not mine.

That's the attitude What are you going to do when, inevitably, your pro goes bust and no other one will come in as the members don't support him/her?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

That's the attitude What are you going to do when, inevitably, your pro goes bust and no other one will come in as the members don't support him/her?

You guys have missed the point completely. I was trying to support him by doing business with him. This putter is surplus to requirements, I have all the golf equipment I currently need. I was giving him the opportunity to do approx £100 worth of business that I wouldn't have spent in his shop otherwise. If he had credited that money into my account, I would probably have bought something that I don't really need but treated myself just for the sake of it because I would have the money in my account. Now, I won't be spending the money in the shop, I'll sell the club privately and spend the money on something non golf related.

So....who is the loser?

 

[chris661]

You guys have missed the point completely. I was trying to support him by doing business with him. This putter is surplus to requirements, I have all the golf equipment I currently need. I was giving him the opportunity to do approx £100 worth of business that I wouldn't have spent in his shop otherwise. If he had credited that money into my account, I would probably have bought something that I don't really need but treated myself just for the sake of it because I would have the money in my account. Now, I won't be spending the money in the shop, I'll sell the club privately and spend the money on something non golf related.

So....who is the loser?

You and your club when he jacks it all in?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

You and your club when he jacks it all in?

OK, lets look at this from another angle.............

Brand new Scotty, very desirable, new cost £200. Plenty of people out there would like one but unwilling to fork out that much cash so they don't buy one.

2nd hand one in a pro shop, pristine condition, £100. At that sort of money, people might say yeah Ok, at that price I'll have it.

£100 goes into my account, I spend it because it's there although I don't need anything, I buy something for the sake of it.

How is that not a good bit of business for the pro shop?

 

[Imurg]

If all it's doing is propping up the wall next to other putters then I can't see the problem with the Pro doing it. Makes sense to me. Not much work involved and that 100 quid stays in the shop - or D4S sells it privately and does a runner with the cash....

Maybe a Pro needs to look at doing things like this to keep revenue coming in during hard times...

 

[chris661]

OK, lets look at this from another angle.............

Brand new Scotty, very desirable, new cost £200. Plenty of people out there would like one but unwilling to fork out that much cash so they don't buy one.

2nd hand one in a pro shop, pristine condition, £100. At that sort of money, people might say yeah Ok, at that price I'll have it.

£100 goes into my account, I spend it because it's there although I don't need anything, I buy something for the sake of it.

How is that not a good bit of business for the pro shop?

Eh? What about covering some of his costs and making a bit. Either you get less than £100 or the putter costs £140. First option you are not happy and tell everybody, second option you are not happy cos your bargain is in the shop as folk think I might as well get a new one for that money.......and tell everybody.

Either way your pro losses out.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Eh? What about covering some of his costs and making a bit. Either you get less than £100 or the putter costs £140. First option you are not happy and tell everybody, second option you are not happy cos your bargain is in the shop as folk think I might as well get a new one for that money.......and tell everybody.

Either way your pro losses out.

What costs does he incur by having a putter sitting in the corner of his shop? Does he not make a profit on the £100 worth of goods that I buy from his shop with the proceeds?

 

[chris661]

What costs does he incur by having a putter sitting in the corner of his shop? Does he not make a profit on the £100 worth of goods that I buy from his shop with the proceeds?

Right, what about the rest of the year?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Right, what about the rest of the year?

What has that got to do with it?

 

[chris661]

What has that got to do with it?

Because the guy has to make money, which you don't seem able to comprehend.

 

[northernshep]

Did you ever factor in that your club is one of a couple of things,

A. Battered
B. Too niche to sell.

At the end of the day the Pro is a business man, and generally can't win as members kick off if they think he is making money off them (ie his job) He could have looked at your club and though no way am I going to be able to sell it (therefore he loses £100) so thought send it to golfbidder and its done with.

 

[Hobbit]

I don't think there's anything wrong with what you propose in post #71. And I don't see anything wrong with him saying no thanks.

But why the "I'm taking my bat and ball home" attitude, and I'll never buy anything from him again?

Just sounds (spoilt) childish to me.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Right, I'm going to put this into plain English for those that have made comments without reading back through previous posts.

At this moment in time, I have all the golf equipment that I need/want. In other words, I'm not looking to spend any money on golf equipment right now. I have a MINT condition Scotty Newport 2 putter, one of the most sought after putters on the market that I'm not using.

Now, I took it into my pro shop and asked him to stick it in the 2nd hand rack and whatever he sells it for, add that money into my shop account (bear in mind the above comment that I'm not looking to buy any golf equipment at the moment). So, someone spots it and buys it for a bargain price, I'm not looking for silly money for it (I'm hoping to get £100, Golfbidder are asking £145 for them). Let's say he sells it for £100 (no real effort required on his part, not asking him to spend any time/money on it for me), I then have £100 to spend in his shop that I wouldn't have spent otherwise. So, for little/no effort, he gets £100 of sales in his shop that he wouldn't normally get because I use up the money for the sake of it.

Alternatively, I sell it privately and spend the cash somewhere else and he gets no business out of it at all. I don't lose out, in fact I gain because I'm not restricted to spending the money in his shop. I have attempted to support him so my conscience is clear. He has lost £100 worth of sales.