poppy's

[Hacker Khan]

Im unsure if you miss my point or choose to ignore it.

First and foremost the poppy display should be all about remembering the fallen in all wars, I have to say it looks amazing and agree it that it should help educate those who chose to be educated on the great war and subsequent wars that followed BUT for me once it becomes a visitors attraction the remembrance side is quickly forgotten and you will get many people who will visit just to see the display and have no thought about what it represents and that for me is sad.

Perhaps I have a stronger faith in humanity and believe that everyone that visits will to some degree think about what it represents. From what I've heard from the people that have visited such as LP above, it is difficult not to.

 

[Val]

Perhaps I have a stronger faith in humanity and believe that everyone that visits will to some degree think about what it represents. From what I've heard from the people that have visited such as LP above, it is difficult not to.

As much as I would love to share your optimism I'm a realist. As previously stated many will visit with the mind of remembrance but sadly many won't even give its meaning a second thought and will only be visiting because of how it looks.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

As much as I would love to share your optimism I'm a realist. As previously stated many will visit with the mind of remembrance but sadly many won't even give its meaning a second thought and will only be visiting because of how it looks.

From being there and witnessing peoples reactions whilst there are a lot of tourists there you can see clearly people reflecting , tourists asking questions , kids asking questions , people speaking to the military guys collecting on site and gaining information about the site and the meaning

It's quite when being there people are taking in by it all and going by what I have seen most will understandibg the meaning

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

A picture will never do its full justice - it doesn't capture the emotion of the area

It gave me a tear in my eye

And believe church has nothing to do with and shouldn't be a part of this discussion

I actually asked about going to church for remembrance as we all do for other important occasions - baptisms, weddings and funerals.

When in the past and not that long ago it was the natural thing for a community to do on Remembrance Sunday as an act of remembrance.

 

[SocketRocket]

I believe most people understand what a terrible waste of life WW1 was as were many wars before and after. My own opinion is that the display at the TOL is what it says on the can, it's helping charities and remembrance of the lost lives in a particular art form. How some people decide to act or react to it is just the way it is, the way the cookie crumbles,each to their own.

I tend to reflect on the words in the song 'The Green Fields of France' at this time of year as for me it seems so poignant. If it's not for you then thats fine.

[video=youtube;5GxLOenKHjE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GxLOenKHjE[/video]

 

[Val]

From being there and witnessing peoples reactions whilst there are a lot of tourists there you can see clearly people reflecting , tourists asking questions , kids asking questions , people speaking to the military guys collecting on site and gaining information about the site and the meaning

It's quite when being there people are taking in by it all and going by what I have seen most will understandibg the meaning

Glad to hear that

 

[Hacker Khan]

I believe most people understand what a terrible waste of life WW1 was as were many wars before and after. My own opinion is that the display at the TOL is what it says on the can, it's helping charities and remembrance of the lost lives in a particular art form. How some people decide to act or react to it is just the way it is, the way the cookie crumbles,each to their own.

I tend to reflect on the words in the song 'The Green Fields of France' at this time of year as for me it seems so poignant. If it's not for you then thats fine.

[video=youtube;5GxLOenKHjE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GxLOenKHjE[/video]

Series 4 of Blackadder and the recent Horrible Histories special does much the same to me in getting over the futility of it all.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Series 4 of Blackadder and the recent Horrible Histories special does much the same to me in getting over the futility of it all.

The final episode in Blackadder is imo very moving and amongst all the comedy in the the four series went out in a perfect ending which imo opened a few hearts and eyes.

I actually enjoy Facebook at this time of year as there is so many moving and wonderful poems and stories written by people and lovely pictures

 

[c1973]

The final episode in Blackadder is imo very moving and amongst all the comedy in the the four series went out in a perfect ending which imo opened a few hearts and eyes.

I actually enjoy Facebook at this time of year as there is so many moving and wonderful poems and stories written by people and lovely pictures

Couldn't agree more.



I'd quite like to see the installation from an artistic point of view, it won't happen though as I wouldn't travel that far to view it,which is a pity.

I'm not sure anyone viewing it would be unaware of the significance of it which can only be a good thing.

 

[SocketRocket]

The final episode in Blackadder is imo very moving and amongst all the comedy in the the four series went out in a perfect ending which imo opened a few hearts and eyes.

I actually enjoy Facebook at this time of year as there is so many moving and wonderful poems and stories written by people and lovely pictures

Just down the road from me is a village called Dymock (has a nice little golf course). It is well known for the Dymock Poets who wrote some of the famous poems around the time of WW1. 'The Soldier' by Rupert Brooke being one of the better known ones.


If I should die, think only this of me:
That there's some corner of a foreign field
That is for ever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
A body of England's, breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Just down the road from me is a village called Dymock (has a nice little golf course). It is well known for the Dymock Poets who wrote some of the famous poems around the time of WW1. 'The Soldier' by Rupert Brooke being one of the better known ones.


If I should die, think only this of me:
That there's some corner of a foreign field
That is for ever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
A body of England's, breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.

That was read out at Westminster Abbey one year

 

[Old Skier]

I actually asked about going to church for remembrance as we all do for other important occasions - baptisms, weddings and funerals.

When in the past and not that long ago it was the natural thing for a community to do on Remembrance Sunday as an act of remembrance.

What are you on about. Most remembrance services are held outside at local war memorials with very little religious significance.

 

[LanDog]

For anyone interested in the documentation of WWI 'Up the Line to Death' is a great anthology which captures the joviulistic atmosphere at the start of the war and how morale deteriorated over the years.

Good reading for anyone interested!

 

[SocketRocket]

For anyone interested in the documentation of WWI 'Up the Line to Death' is a great anthology which captures the joviulistic atmosphere at the start of the war and how morale deteriorated over the years.

Good reading for anyone interested!

Thanks. Sounds interesting.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Welcome Break ban people selling poppies

They want to support Children in Need -

Didn't realise you had to choose

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/528656/Boycott-motorway-services-who-banned-poppy-sales

 

[Old Skier]

Welcome Break ban people selling poppies

They want to support Children in Need -

Didn't realise you had to choose

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/528656/Boycott-motorway-services-who-banned-poppy-sales

Welcome Break said it continues to support the Poppy Appeal.
Last night the Royal British Legion moved to defuse the row.
A statement said: "The Royal British Legion's Poppy Appeal is pleased, once again, to be working with Welcome Break at its many locations across the UK during this year's appeal.
"The Legion is grateful for the support that Welcome Break is providing to the Poppy Appeal, including permission to collect on site, and the Legion also understands that their chosen charity Children in Need will at times receive priority.
"The Legion is always grateful for the support that it receives from corporate enterprises and recognises that any organisation or individual has the right to choose which charities to support.
"The Legion respects and admires the support that Welcome Break gives to Children in Need as their chosen charity, and is also grateful for their support it gives to the Poppy Appeal."

 

[LanDog]

Thanks. Sounds interesting.

Brian Gardner is the editor of it, just so you know who to look out for. :thup:

 

[SocketRocket]

Brian Gardner is the editor of it, just so you know who to look out for. :thup:

Thank you, after a good read right now.

 

[LanDog]

I'm not very well read when it comes to Poppy's so correct me if I'm wrong here, but they are to honour all the fallen of what wars? Is it WWI & II only?
Is it every British war?
Do they show respect to both sides on every war?
It's commissioned by the Royal British Legion, yes? Does that mean the funds raised only go toward British military?
If it's ok for an Irish guy to wear one to show respect for the fallen irish in WWI is there any point when there is no money going towards them? or is there?!

The problem I can see with it in Northern Ireland is that some people use it as a tool to antagonise the other half of society, due to the British link, much in the same way people will wear the Easter lily

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Used to commentate soldiers who have died in war

Inspired by a poem called Flanders Field which was inspired due to poppies starting to grow on the graves of soliders in the first world war in an area called Flander in Belgium

Money raised goes to help veterans , forces families etc