BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
I get your point. There can be some very complicated situations with golf rules. But I'm talking about some pretty basic things.
As someone above said. Nicest point of relief
Playing partner falsifying scores
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I get your point. There can be some very complicated situations with golf rules. But I'm talking about some pretty basic things.
As someone above said. Nicest point of relief
SteveW86
Head Pro
Mistakes can happen, i marked down a 5 on my last hole the other week, then realised in the car on the way home I had a 4, or Atleast I was sure I did.
Rlburnside
Challenge Tour Pro
I played a doubles knockout last week and there were 2 incidents that I should have handled differently.
We were having a good friendly match and I know both of our opponents one of them said he could get relief from standing water I was only 10 yards away on the first instance I looked and all though it was damp I could see no water where he stood, the second instance he called over and asked I said ok then moved his ball 10 yards.
My overriding thought was to not to cause friction as we were enjoying the match but not the right attitude, we won both the holes but I thought later if we lost the match( we won on 2nd extra hole) how annoyed I would have been on not being more assertive.
We were having a good friendly match and I know both of our opponents one of them said he could get relief from standing water I was only 10 yards away on the first instance I looked and all though it was damp I could see no water where he stood, the second instance he called over and asked I said ok then moved his ball 10 yards.
My overriding thought was to not to cause friction as we were enjoying the match but not the right attitude, we won both the holes but I thought later if we lost the match( we won on 2nd extra hole) how annoyed I would have been on not being more assertive.
IslaG
Member
We have a lovely 86 yr old we have to count for She used to play off 14 and I am absolutely sure no malice is involved The old dear simply has no idea of her actual score and thinks ‘ah the 4th I usually take 5 there’ (or did 20 yes ago) Golf and mind have slipped a bit - but we gently keep her accurate and she keeps playing- hey hope I can do the same and that my fellow players are compassionate
DeanoMK
Club Champion
Funny you should say that as someone I used to work with, and I've said about him before on here, ran our monthly social golf comps. He plays off 9 (but is more realistically a 12-14) and everyone knows that he cheats and year on year he wins the order of merit, but no one ever calls him out on it.
The reason, he generally puts himself with high handicappers because he knows they won't keep an eye on his score.
Whenever I have played with him, I always keep his score and have corrected him a few times....
Funnily enough though, numbers attending have dwindled and he barely gets a 4 ball each month anymore.
davidy233
Tour Rookie
I'm nowhere near being a low handicapper but I'll be able to tell you every shot I play and probably all of my playing partners too - I find it odd when people add up their score at the turn and are surprised by their score - I generally know mine without consciously counting it and although I've no interest in how the people I'm playing with are doing I could add up their score too if I had to.
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
I've said it before on here. I don't add up my score until the end of the round. Nor do I count my score as I go along. I also don't confer about scores at the turn. Its pointless. I'm not interested. If a player wants to know their score after 9 they can add it up themselves.
I know if I'm playing well or not, but my score is irrelevant until I've holed out on the last.
If I'm marking a card for someone, I will pay attention to what they are doing. But I'm not going to worry about counting and remembering every shot they hit. And if I'm not marking a card for someone, then I couldn't care less how many shots they've had. Its up to them and their marker to worry about.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Doesn't really matter if they were playing with me in a friendly. I tend to mark all players scores on my card anyway, so hopefully I have the true scores at hand if anyone is interested.
The only issue comes is if the player is going to hand in their card as a general play round. Their score needs to be verified, so if you are their marker, it is perfectly acceptable (and necessary) for you to confirm their score. And, there is no issue in flagging any errors if you spot them (even after they have submitted them electronically)
The only issue comes is if the player is going to hand in their card as a general play round. Their score needs to be verified, so if you are their marker, it is perfectly acceptable (and necessary) for you to confirm their score. And, there is no issue in flagging any errors if you spot them (even after they have submitted them electronically)
Steve Wilkes
Well-known member
From a personal view verifying a score for a hole can only be done when leaving that green, as later it becomes a "yes you did" against "no I didn't" sort of thing in which both parties believe they are right
Swango1980
Well-known member
True, especially if you feel the player frequently gets things wrong. It also highlights the benefit of having the player and marker verify and sign off the score immediately after the round, rather than the marker getting a notification on an app to verify score later in day. If done immediately after rounds, at least both players can discuss any issues face to face and resolve them
Canary Kid
Assistant Pro
It should be possible to challenge a player’s score in a non-confrontational way if it is done properly … I think tone of voice and inflection is key. I would tend to consider that, if asked very politely, any player getting stroppy about being challenged has probably knowingly cheated. A couple of months ago in a senior doubles match against another club, I said when we were all on the green ready to putt “that’s four for me“ and one of our opponents said in a polite way “are you sure?” or similar. I did a recap and he was right … I was mortified and said “you are right, I am so sorry”. He said “no problem … it’s easily done” and we moved on.
Swango1980
Well-known member
What was your real score? A 9?
eddie_1878
Active member
Was on a casual round a few weeks ago as a 3 ball, we keep tabs on round winners to add a slight bit of competition but all in fun.
Marker missed marking the 5th and didn’t realise until after the 9th so had to mark it retrospectively. I told them mine was a 5 to which they replied that they’d got 5’s too, when in reality they got 6 and 7. I didn’t say anything because it’s just a friendly game etc. But come the 18th and I lose by a stroke and out come the bragging rights, it leaves a bitter taste.
Especially when you’re playing properly, taking your medicine and your playing partners are moving their ball away from tree trunks without penalty.
Marker missed marking the 5th and didn’t realise until after the 9th so had to mark it retrospectively. I told them mine was a 5 to which they replied that they’d got 5’s too, when in reality they got 6 and 7. I didn’t say anything because it’s just a friendly game etc. But come the 18th and I lose by a stroke and out come the bragging rights, it leaves a bitter taste.
Especially when you’re playing properly, taking your medicine and your playing partners are moving their ball away from tree trunks without penalty.
Rlburnside
Challenge Tour Pro
Another anomaly with whs ,in Scotland we have to verify scores on the app at the clubhouse, bad idea to let a marker verify scores later in the day away from clubhouse.
Canary Kid
Assistant Pro
???. No, it was 5.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I've been reading Commander In Cheat, after I saw it recommended on the forum somewhere. Some of the lengths Trump has gone to in falsifying his scores are incredible. 
Swango1980
Well-known member
I got that for Xmas, not read it yet though. Thanks for the reminder, as I'm ready to start another bookI've been reading Commander In Cheat, after I saw it recommended on the forum somewhere. Some of the lengths Trump has gone to in falsifying his scores are incredible.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I'm only about a quarter of the way in, but it's hilarious. Honestly unbelievable some of the stuff he's done.
SurreyGolfer
Active member
I just don't 'get' some of the behaviour described thread. Ok I'm fairly new to this (well, a returner after a 20yr break) and I shoot ~105-110 at the minute but surely part of the satisfaction of if/when I break 100, 90, etc is knowing I earnt it and all those lessons/£'s/practice were worth it? It's just meaningless if you intentionally cheat and if it's with mates that's even worse as you could potentially piss off a mate??!
If you genuinely miscount on occasion, fine, no one is perfect and occasionally you think its a 5 when it's a 6 or vice versa.....but intentionally dropping balls, chipping shots off? Not for me. Might as well stay home and do something cheaper that requires less effort. Maybe football, easier to keep score.
If you genuinely miscount on occasion, fine, no one is perfect and occasionally you think its a 5 when it's a 6 or vice versa.....but intentionally dropping balls, chipping shots off? Not for me. Might as well stay home and do something cheaper that requires less effort. Maybe football, easier to keep score.
HeftyHacker
Well-known member
When I first started playing golf very casually about 8 years ago I'll admit I very rarely used to score properly. I was playing with my boss at the time who, although he didn't set the world alight golfing-wise, was much much better than me. So to keep it fairly even he'd give me mulligans and let me drop another for free in the vicinity of any lost balls etc.
The problem with this was that I then didn't play for about 4 years, other than occasional range visits etc, until the bug bit properly last year. I'd always assumed I was around a 20 handicapper when playing with mates and we were scoring but the reality is that when I started scoring properly was that I was probably more in the 30s.
In many ways this was probably the reality check I needed first time round as it made me really work on my game and I'm now down at an official 14.7 handicap and falling.
The problem with this was that I then didn't play for about 4 years, other than occasional range visits etc, until the bug bit properly last year. I'd always assumed I was around a 20 handicapper when playing with mates and we were scoring but the reality is that when I started scoring properly was that I was probably more in the 30s.
In many ways this was probably the reality check I needed first time round as it made me really work on my game and I'm now down at an official 14.7 handicap and falling.
