Players diving

[Tarkus1212]

I love all this "Jose M & the dark arts" rubbish. JM is doing what JM has always done which is to deflect all of the aggravation away from his players and on to himself. Of course he knows Cahill and Willian dived (I'm less convinced in Costa's case) and so he says stupid things like "I didn't see it" which we all know is total BS. Same with the rubbish about the ball boys at Newcastle - Chelsea lose and the headlines are all about what JM said not any shortcomings of the players or even about how well Newcastle played. JM plays the media game better than anyone else in the game and they fall for it every time (or maybe they dived??).

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I love all this "Jose M & the dark arts" rubbish. JM is doing what JM has always done which is to deflect all of the aggravation away from his players and on to himself. Of course he knows Cahill and Willian dived (I'm less convinced in Costa's case) and so he says stupid things like "I didn't see it" which we all know is total BS. Same with the rubbish about the ball boys at Newcastle - Chelsea lose and the headlines are all about what JM said not any shortcomings of the players or even about how well Newcastle played. JM plays the media game better than anyone else in the game and they fall for it every time (or maybe they dived??).

So who is to blame when Arsenal players dive ?

And isn't Wenger the King of not seeing stuff?

 

[Tarkus1212]

So who is to blame when Arsenal players dive ?

And isn't Wenger the King of not seeing stuff?

Of course Arsene is the king of blindness but he says it all the time - I don't recall JM saying it before, probably because anyone can see that he has access to a tv at all times at Stamford Bridge. As to who is to blame when Arsenal players dive, the player is as in every case. I don't believe that any clubs practise diving - if they do then Cahill clearly missed that session.

 

[JCW]

So who is to blame when Arsenal players dive ?

And isn't Wenger the King of not seeing stuff?

If you trying to have a dig at me , try harder as I am not that soft , or run to the mods saying we are having a go at you , yes they have dived and have been pulled up for it , Carzola is one you posted a video of on here to have a dig , the same player stayed on his feet this week and scored when he could have gone down , put that in your tinted glass pipe and smoke it ...........LS is not leaving , he has left lol :thup:

 

[Old Skier]

So who is to blame when Arsenal players dive ?

And isn't Wenger the King of not seeing stuff?

Your surely not inferring its Mr Wengers fault. You said previously it has nothing to do with the managers.

PS, still waiting for the answer to the question I left for you several pages back.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Your surely not inferring its Mr Wengers fault. You said previously it has nothing to do with the managers.

PS, still waiting for the answer to the question I left for you several pages back.

No I'm not suggesting it's the managers fault

Which question is that ?

 

[garyinderry]

why not a red card for obvious dives in the box if you stop a goal scoring chance you get sent off. clear dive to gain a goal scoring chance should have the same result.

 

[JCW]

No I'm not suggesting it's the managers fault

Which question is that ?

You should change your name to Germany , because in world war 2 they ended up fighting a battle on all fronts due to their actions :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

why not a red card for obvious dives in the box if you stop a goal scoring chance you get sent off. clear dive to gain a goal scoring chance should have the same result.

Certainly the most sensible suggestion :thup:

 

[Tarkus1212]

Certainly the most sensible suggestion :thup:

I agree, although you'll probably get more refs bottling the decision.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

why not a red card for obvious dives in the box if you stop a goal scoring chance you get sent off. clear dive to gain a goal scoring chance should have the same result.

The trouble is the laws don't allow for that at the moment and simulation is a yellow irrespective of where it occurs. Good suggestion but I can't see the law being changed to allow it

 

[JCW]

The trouble is the laws don't allow for that at the moment and simulation is a yellow irrespective of where it occurs. Good suggestion but I can't see the law being changed to allow it

A panel sitting after the event handing out bans is all that is needed , panel of say 5 , one ex ref , one ex manager and 3 ex players , must be clear cut anything 50/50 or near should go with the player , Pl should go alone on this and the rest will follow

 

[Old Skier]

No I'm not suggesting it's the managers fault

Which question is that ?

You couldn't be bothered to answer, which is your normal form, I can't be bothered to go back and find it.

 

[Old Skier]

why not a red card for obvious dives in the box if you stop a goal scoring chance you get sent off. clear dive to gain a goal scoring chance should have the same result.

You still need to have the ref deciding to do this.

Since paid refs have come into being with their wages linked to games officiated in the standards have fallen when it comes to refs being consistent.

They are in the hands of the football managers we have already had several high profile cases where refs have been taken off the list for a number of weeks because mangers didn't like the way officials handled their match.

 

[Old Skier]

A panel sitting after the event handing out bans is all that is needed , panel of say 5 , one ex ref , one ex manager and 3 ex players , must be clear cut anything 50/50 or near should go with the player , Pl should go alone on this and the rest will follow

Interested to know why players. They are the ones that started the problem.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I agree, although you'll probably get more refs bottling the decision.

That there is no doubt

 

[JCW]

Interested to know why players. They are the ones that started the problem.

Got to have an all round view and input into the panel , maybe even have the following , a fan/ football writer , a player , a ref , a manager and a TV pundit all sitting round the table and shown on sky as they go through all the matches after the weekend games and dish out the bans , make good viewing and get players and managers thinking about their actions in future :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You couldn't be bothered to answer, which is your normal form, I can't be bothered to go back and find it.

Well looked back and if it's about managers in press conference - It doesn't bother me what they say - sometimes it is very funny