Players diving

[Old Skier]

Of course in public they'll stand up for their players and you wouldn't expect them to do otherwise. It would be nice if one did stand up and say "he cheated to get that penalty" but I can't see it happening

And there lies the problem. Managers are seen in public to condone cheating when everyone else saw the player cheat.

 

[Tashyboy]

Wait I cannot get my head around is that the FA pick and chose when it will and will not use retrospective video evidence on certain issues that have happened over the weekend. Players are judged by there mistakes or intent. Usually when referees have missed something. If a ref gives a yellow then he is deemed to have dealt and punished the issue there and then. However if a player is deliberately cheating by diving them why not judge that by video evidence. It won't change a result but a ban may change people's/ players attitudes towards diving.

 

[Old Skier]

Umm its the media who the managers speak to when they say their players dont dive as you mentioned in your post about managers denying it :mmm:

So are your happy that managers lie to the media when their players cheat.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The FA dont pick and chose - they go by what the ref does or doesnt put in the match report or if they deal with it on the pitch or not.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So are your happy that managers lie to the media when their players cheat.

When did i say that ?

Its the players that break the rules - its them that need punished

All managers protect their players in Press Conferences.

 

[Old Skier]

However if a player is deliberately cheating by diving them why not judge that by video evidence. It won't change a result but a ban may change people's/ players attitudes towards diving.

And mangers will start loosing players which will make them sort their players out.

 

[Old Skier]

It was a question which only required a yes or no answer, I havnt said you say anything

 

[HomerJSimpson]

If a referee makes a decision like the Aguero one and books him, that's done and dusted and there's no further action deemed necessary. The FA seem reluctant to use video evidence on this subject and I can't see that changing and until it does and they ban players they'll keep on doing it. Manager's won't slate players in the media. Of course if the English game becomes a pantheon of fair play what happens when we despicable foreign johnnies play our boys and use these tactics to win. Will we be happy we lost doing the right thing?

 

[Old Skier]

Of course if the English game becomes a pantheon of fair play what happens when we despicable foreign johnnies play our boys and use these tactics to win. Will we be happy we lost doing the right thing?

Unfortunatly this week one of the worst culprits was English and plays for England.

 

[Blue in Munich]

If you seriously think that after the Clattenburg incident then you really haven't got a clue.

Blimey that narrows it down a bit ? Which one ?

Yup which one.

Please tell that this is a failed attempt at humour?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Unfortunatly this week one of the worst culprits was English and plays for England.

This week maybe. What about last week or next. If you think that was bad I guess you don't watch much Serie A or La Liga football

 

[Tashyboy]

The FA dont pick and chose - they go by what the ref does or doesnt put in the match report or if they deal with it on the pitch or not.

yeah but they do phil, if a ref is deemed in his report that he did not "see it" a panel sits through video evidence and decides whether to charge an individual or not. If you dive you go to video evidence end of.

 

[Old Skier]

If you think that was bad I guess you don't watch much Serie A or La Liga football

I don't think I watch much but HID might disagree.

Thank heavens the skiings back on the box, they don't tend to fall over on purpose in that.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Please tell that this is a failed attempt at humour?

Sorry mate Battenburg has made that many shocking desicions i have lost count ?

 

[Tashyboy]

Please tell that this is a failed attempt at humour?

No blue it's not coz if it is the Milner penalty I have already said it was never a penalty and Milner went down under a challenge but he never dived.

 

[Blue in Munich]

No blue it's not coz if it is the Milner penalty I have already said it was never a penalty and Milner went down under a challenge but he never dived.

Why on earth would the Milner incident have anything to do with bias being extended towards Chelsea?

I was referring to the incident involving him & Ramires. If you think after that we get a free ride from referees then you really are having a laugh. If Foy didn't book him it was for one of two reasons; ineptitude or because it wasn't a dive, and having been there and seen it live, my money in this instance is on the latter. Costa was ineptitude & the Willian booking was absolutely correct.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Bad weekend for refereeing and officialdom - change is needed.

 

[Liverbirdie]

and having been there and seen it live,

How dare you have the temerity to actually attend a football match, and come on here posting your musings. Your just showing off.

Shame on you.:whoo:

 

[Tongo]

Wait I cannot get my head around is that the FA pick and chose when it will and will not use retrospective video evidence on certain issues that have happened over the weekend. Players are judged by there mistakes or intent. Usually when referees have missed something. If a ref gives a yellow then he is deemed to have dealt and punished the issue there and then. However if a player is deliberately cheating by diving them why not judge that by video evidence. It won't change a result but a ban may change people's/ players attitudes towards diving.

Banning players is the only answer. As for the FA, well there's almost a white elephant where the PL's concerned.

 

[JCW]

All you guys having a go at the refs is not right , sure they make mistakes , can`t really blame them as the players try everything to con them by whatever means including cheating and you got Mr dark arts himself Jose M the special one coming on telly saying his players are clean , if he said no comment i would respect that more , last week he was saying the newcastle ball boys were cheating , they are all cheats and its time a panel sit after every weekend games and deal with playing acting , diving and the rest and dish out bans of 1 to 5 matches , more for repeat offenders ..............its not the refs fault he gets it wrong now and again with all this cheating goin on :sbox: :thup: