Personal Launch Monitors - Doppler Radar

[BoadieBroadus]

the itrainer is a skypro rebranded by Ping is it not? or is that something else i'm thinking of?

I love the skypro and would say its the one gadget that has really made a huge difference to my game, but have the stats that it gives me makes me question the need for additional data such as that mentioned above.

I can understand it for fitting purposes, but not really for a normal range session with the clubs one normally uses for a round. i'd be interested to have a look at it, but i think, personally, that the additional data would be pretty superfluous.

 

[G1BB0]

we need more gadge

GC2 is 12k huh, right wheres my piggy bank.

I really wish there was a totally impartial review of all the main players (in say the sub £200 bracket) side by side. I know Iain Clarke had a swingbyte 2 that he uses for swing path and he said it was an excellent bit of kit.

 

[CMAC]

until they make a cheaper 'Trackman' I'll wait

 

[Sweep]

I am the sucker that has BOTH the ES12 and the Vector Pro
Both are great pieces of kit in their own way, but I find I use the ES12 every practice session, whereas I use the Vector not so often because of the set up time.
The ES12 is great because it is ready to go at any time and is spookily accurate. It only measures ball speed and calculates distance though that. In effect it is a really good speed gun, measuring the ball speed even in the space of a 3m cage net and from that and the club info you have imputed (what club you are hitting) it works out how far your shot would have gone. I know it will have its detractors but in practice this is really useful, more than I ever thought, and is a valuable practice aid. Just a caution, if you want accurate figures you need to use real balls at it can only measure the speed of the ball you have hit, and range balls don't go as fast and therefore and far as a real ball. The free app is good too, because it will record shot info and give you a very clear picture of how far you hit each club and highlight gapping issues etc. All very good for the price, only lacking flight shape info, which is what I really use the Vector for.
Thanks for highlighting the ES14. After my experience using the ES12 I will definately be looking at this.

 

[Alex1975]

My biggest issue with calculating launch angle is that it is looking at the loft of your club... But what about dynamic loft. No one is delivering actual loft at impact.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I get enough technical data when I have my lessons. I really wouldn't want to get bogged down analysing the majority of my shots at a range session. It would make me too mechanical and I've spent the last four years emptying my head of swing thoughts and playing with more freedom. I'll rely on my pro to interpret the numbers and make the changes I need in the lesson. After that, the quality of the strike and direction is all I want to be interested in

 

[vkurup]

Where will you get the electricity to run this? If everyone turns up on the range with a monitor, will the club allow peeps to plug and play???

edit.. just heard that SSE dropped their prices till 2016.. happy days

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Where will you get the electricity to run this? If everyone turns up on the range with a monitor, will the club allow peeps to plug and play???

edit.. just heard that SSE dropped their prices till 2016.. happy days

They run off a battery as well

 

[simmb]

I imported a Yupiteru GST from Japan about a year ago. Not sure of exact cost after import duty but sure it was not much over the £120 mark. Does pretty much the same as the ES12, down side is everything is in Japanese and measurements for speed are in metres per second. It has a micro SD card so everything can be exported to spreadsheets and converted to MPH so not a real big issue. With irons its quite scary how accurate it is 95% of the time, woods are way off normally reading longer for most shots. It measures club and ball speed everything else is calculated, without launch measurment you can hit a thin ball and still get some nice results. I found it useful for first few range sessions but then got bit bored of looking at Stats and decided to just play golf instead. Its currently in the cupboard with all my other golf gadgets and several drivers.

 

[road2ruin]

I have been having a look at these things for a while and am already a complete sucker for a gadget of any description!!!

Anyway, settled on the Swing Caddie SC100 and have just ordered off eBay ($225) so will report back once I have it in my sweaty mitts!!

The main reason I went for this over the ES12/14 was practicality. In the reviews I had read the main negatives I found were the space required. As the ES12/14 need to be set up adjacent to the ball I'd read that using them in range bays wasn't always possible. Seeing as I will only going to use these in a range I can't afford to have this issue. The SC100 on the other hand sits a metre or so behind the ball so no issues there.

Will report back!!

 

[RichardSanderson]

Which seller did you order your SC100 from? I'm seriously considering buying one.

 

[mab]

we need more gadge

GC2 is 12k huh, right wheres my piggy bank.

I really wish there was a totally impartial review of all the main players (in say the sub £200 bracket) side by side. I know Iain Clarke had a swingbyte 2 that he uses for swing path and he said it was an excellent bit of kit.

FWIW, I believe GC2 (without HMT) is around £5k... not £12k.

 

[MGL]

FWIW, I believe GC2 (without HMT) is around £5k... not £12k.

Its about £7k for the base unit plus the SW for it. The HMT is about another £5k. Either way, I think the personal ones are a little more within reach lol!

 

[road2ruin]

Which seller did you order your SC100 from? I'm seriously considering buying one.

I bought from the seller greatestoutdoors on eBay. Listed at $260, make an offer of $225

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It seems its starting to happen....

I made a post about a year ago about the fact that whoever could make the doppler radar type systems cheap enough for personal launch monitors would be onto a great thing and be able to exploit the extreme golfers lust for knowledge.

The Swing Caddy SC100 is a doppler radar system for around $300, it offers:
http://voicecaddie.com/2013/product_sc100_01.php
• Carry Distance
• Swing Speed
• Ball Speed
• Smash Factor

So no launch angle or spin rate... for the money its good but for me there simply has to be launch and spin to believe the carry distance.

Now the Ernest Sports ES14.... This thing really does look good!! There is no enough info just yet but it looks a lot better than the ES12!!!:
http://www.ernestsports.com/es14/

Ball Speed
Spin Rate
Smash Factor
Club Speed
Distance


At around $450... I am very keen to see how this looks going forwards.


Any thoughts? Something you would like?

Pointless for most golfers

 

[Sandy]

I would like one

Who is buying one to test it out then?

Got an ES14 arriving this week. Happy to review once it's had a test drive or three. Got my ES12 up for sale again, eBay buyer never paid. Might test the ES12 and ES14 up against each other. In fairness the ES12 was a decent piece of kit for what was expected of it.

 

[6inchcup]

why would anyone want this type of gadget,it gives you a long list of stats that unless you know how they relate to your swing or more importantly how you adjust your swing to get more consistant results,it is ok in the hands of a pro who can take an overall view and correct any faults but to someone in the back garden into a net its a waste of money,same as a net in the garden for that matter i had one used it for a few months then got fed up and went back to the range with my friends bit of banter and a laugh,not just hitting ball after ball on my own.

 

[MGL]

why would anyone want this type of gadget,it gives you a long list of stats that unless you know how they relate to your swing or more importantly how you adjust your swing to get more consistant results,it is ok in the hands of a pro who can take an overall view and correct any faults but to someone in the back garden into a net its a waste of money,same as a net in the garden for that matter i had one used it for a few months then got fed up and went back to the range with my friends bit of banter and a laugh,not just hitting ball after ball on my own.

Perhaps some people find them useful, just like they might find a net in their back garden useful. Just because you don't/didn't doesn't mean you need to question someones reasons for wanting one.

I don't understand the negativity tbh.

 

[MGL]

Got an ES14 arriving this week. Happy to review once it's had a test drive or three. Got my ES12 up for sale again, eBay buyer never paid. Might test the ES12 and ES14 up against each other. In fairness the ES12 was a decent piece of kit for what was expected of it.

Really interested to hear the feedback on this!

 

[Wildrover]

The ES14 looks like the best buy, without spin rate and launch angle I don't see how the SC100 can be that accurate. A 6iron striking a ball at a set speed is going to go very different distances with 4000rpm or 6000rpm so how it can it possibly work?