Perceived forgiveness.

I cant get my head around these types of statements - great with irons, around green and putting.....handicap 11. :o



I'm only playing 3 yrs my friend..... I would think after 3 yrs an 11 handicap is respectable enough..... Its also dropping...... But I still fail to see what point your trying to make..... You seem to think that handicap is relative to how forgiving or unforgiving clubs are......
 
I'm only playing 3 yrs my friend..... I would think after 3 yrs an 11 handicap is respectable enough..... Its also dropping...... But I still fail to see what point your trying to make..... You seem to think that handicap is relative to how forgiving or unforgiving clubs are......

Damn! I've been playing the same length of time (... Just) and I'm only a 14 handicap



B+ ...... Must try harder

:D
 
I'm only playing 3 yrs my friend..... I would think after 3 yrs an 11 handicap is respectable enough..... Its also dropping...... But I still fail to see what point your trying to make..... You seem to think that handicap is relative to how forgiving or unforgiving clubs are......
Erm no, handicap is relative to how well you play.

You seem to think you're playing superbly with your blades, yet your handicap says otherwise.

Perhaps therefore, you know just maybe, a little bit of help and forgiveness might do the trick?

It's not a difficult concept to grasp for most people.
 
maybe if you played more forgiving clubs that are designed to help you, you may lose the high handicap? :confused:


Erm no, handicap is relative to how well you play.

You seem to think you're playing superbly with your blades, yet your handicap says otherwise.

Perhaps therefore, you know just maybe, a little bit of help and forgiveness might do the trick?

It's not a difficult concept to grasp for most people.



If handicap is relative to how well you play then why make a statement about more forgiving clubs..... Maybe shots are lost off the tee..... Its easy to do.....
Secondly I don't play blades.... I play cavity backs...... So I would think I still have help if I need it......
I'm not denying some or even I don't need help every now and again but to make a statement that more forgiving clubs will make you better is innaccurate in my opinion....
 
The more I look and think about this, the more I'm set on going to a combo set.

AP 1s in 3-6i & AP 2s 7-PW.

Hmmm, how much would I get for 2nd hand MP 60s?? :)

You could just buy the 3-6 in something like MP54

Or test drive a 'build your own' combo set.
 
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I'm not denying some or even I don't need help every now and again but to make a statement that more forgiving clubs will make you better is innaccurate in my opinion....
Apologies I was confusing you with the other guy who thinks he's smashing it round with blades. The FG Tours are hardly GI irons, but anyway, if you think more forgiveness won't help you reduce your handicap, then good luck with that.

Better have a word with Ping, Callaway, Titleist, Cobra etc while you're at it, seems they are all wrong too :D
 
Oooh they look nice :)

A mate made up a MP30/33 combo set some years ago that he's only just moved on. I think MP30s were a previous equivalent of the 60s. I had a set that were great, apart from the fugly PW - a Mizzy trait back then.
 
maybe if you played more forgiving clubs that are designed to help you, you may lose the high handicap? :confused:


Gareth is a 14 handicap, that makes him a solid mid handicap not a high handicap. You come across like you just joined the post to have a dig and its this kind of posting that is seeing people leave the forum or not post, grow up! I am pretty sure he makes it clear that he find the center of the club, if that is the case then what the hell would GI clubs do for him? Did you mean to be rude? did you want to boost your self? did you not think your question through? It really is getting old having quality posts dragged down because people like you feel the need to have a dig to someone who is making a relevant point... do you really think GI clubs would suddenly change him into a low handicap? You really go in for what the OEMs are telling you?
 
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Gareth is a 14 handicap, that makes him a solid mid handicap not a high handicap. You come across like you just joined the post to have a dig and its this kind of posting that is seeing people leave the forum or not post, grow up! I am pretty sure he makes it clear that he find the center of the club, if that is the case then what the hell would GI clubs do for him? Did you mean to be rude? did you want to boost your self? did you not think your question through? It really is getting old having quality posts dragged down because people like you feel the need to have a dig to someone who is making a relevant point... do you really think GI clubs would suddenly change him into a low handicap? You really go in for what the OEMs are telling you?
yes. Up until a year ago I was a custom fitter, time and time again you'd see folks wanting to buy clubs they couldn't get the best out of if they stood smashing balls all day. Luckily there were enough players who are open minded enough to try most things and find what works best, other just can't stop their ego overcoming their ability.

He doesn't make anything clear, he states he finds the middle of the club, his high handicap suggests that if that's the case, then he has serious issues elsewhere. Posts like his do no service to players who want to improve and need good sensible advice. His "advice" is nothing more than an over-inflated ego talking.

As for the forum, over-zealous moderating seems to have a lot to do with it, and cliqueyness.
 
yes. Up until a year ago I was a custom fitter, time and time again you'd see folks wanting to buy clubs they couldn't get the best out of if they stood smashing balls all day. Luckily there were enough players who are open minded enough to try most things and find what works best, other just can't stop their ego overcoming their ability.

He doesn't make anything clear, he states he finds the middle of the club, his high handicap suggests that if that's the case, then he has serious issues elsewhere. Posts like his do no service to players who want to improve and need good sensible advice. His "advice" is nothing more than an over-inflated ego talking.

As for the forum, over-zealous moderating seems to have a lot to do with it, and cliqueyness.


Gareth never posts with ego.. I have never seen it. He does not advise others he tells of his own experience. His numbers show that he makes the very best of his swing speed, launch angle and so on... If he finds the middle of the bat there is not a club made that will help him. You know this though! You know how GI clubs work...

One question though... what is the mid point between 28 and 0?
 
Gareth never posts with ego.. I have never seen it. He does not advise others he tells of his own experience. His numbers show that he makes the very best of his swing speed, launch angle and so on... If he finds the middle of the bat there is not a club made that will help him. You know this though! You know how GI clubs work...

One question though... what is the mid point between 28 and 0?
Go back and read kid2's post and Gareth's reply. That's not advice then?

"more people could hit them (ping s55) than they think". Well from my experience, LESS people can hit a blade than the think.

Gareth claims to have been playing 3 years, has tried ONE set of GI clubs when he was a rabbit, and since then blades. How exactly is he qualified to claim that most players would be able to hit blades?
 
And the mid point between 28 and 0 is?.... 28 divided by 2?
What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?

So, what you're saying is that a newish player, who hasn't tried many clubs, and has a high handicap, is more likely correct to give his bad advice, than a recent club fitter who has tried them all, and has seen the difference it makes to players?
 
What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?

So, what you're saying is that a newish player, who hasn't tried many clubs, and has a high handicap, is more likely correct to give his bad advice, than a recent club fitter who has tried them all, and has seen the difference it makes to players?


And the mid point between 28 and 0 is?.... 28 divided by 2?


Did you have to give up club fitting because you did not get along with any of your customers by any chance?


You just want to be rude done you? Your here for your own amusement yes?!


28 divided by 2 please?
 
And the mid point between 28 and 0 is?.... 28 divided by 2?


Did you have to give up club fitting because you did not get along with any of your customers by any chance?


You just want to be rude done you? Your here for your own amusement yes?!


28 divided by 2 please?
It's 14. No I gave up cos the pay was poor, I got great feedback in that job, and have largely worked with the public most of my life - though thankfully not now.

And no I don't want to be rude, nor have I been, but I hate people dressing up their opinion as good advice, when - especially in this case - it is terrible advice.

Could a high handicapper use blades effectively? Of course, but the other 99% will just make the game more difficult.
 
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