Patrick Reed

[clubchamp98]

I don’t believe so. I believe the RoG sets out the penalty for each type of infraction. Improving your lie is the general penalty, which is two strokes.

What about doing it twice?
Is that a serious breach.?

 

[clubchamp98]

I don’t believe so. I believe the RoG sets out the penalty for each type of infraction. Improving your lie is the general penalty, which is two strokes.

Rule (1.2a in the interpretations ) bullet point 8 seems to disagree with you.
If you deliberately break a rule to gain an advantage you can be DQd
Even if you incurred a penalty under another rule.
That’s how I read it.

 

[sunshine]

Rule (1.2a in the interpretations ) bullet point 8 seems to disagree with you.
If you deliberately break a rule to gain an advantage you can be DQd
Even if you incurred a penalty under another rule.
That’s how I read it.

Is this more of a PGA tour disciplinary thing , Ie breaching code of conduct, rather than a tournament penalty?

 

[fundy]

Is this more of a PGA tour disciplinary thing , Ie breaching code of conduct, rather than a tournament penalty?

the PGA tour arguably the biggest culprits in this for me, theyre happily laughing, belittling and dismissing the issue and actively coming out pro Reed on social media since it happened having let the cheat off as lightly as they could

 

[clubchamp98]

Is this more of a PGA tour disciplinary thing , Ie breaching code of conduct, rather than a tournament penalty?

It’s in the interpretations of the rules of golf , on the R&A rules of golf website .
I thought they were for everyone.

Well I must be reading it wrong ! It’s quite clear.

 

[clubchamp98]

the PGA tour arguably the biggest culprits in this for me, theyre happily laughing, belittling and dismissing the issue and actively coming out pro Reed on social media since it happened having let the cheat off as lightly as they could

That’s the problem ,there is a interpretation that they can dq him but choose not to.

 

[Slab]

What about doing it twice?
Is that a serious breach.?

I think it was only one lie that he improved = one breach

 

[Tashyboy]

Patrick Reeds caddy booted out of presidents cup for having hold of a fan who was abusing patrick reed. Like I said this ain't going away for Mr reed.

 

[Jacko_G]

Patrick Reeds caddy booted out of presidents cup for having hold of a fan who was abusing patrick reed. Like I said this ain't going away for Mr reed.

Sounds like another storm in a tea cup.

Shouldn't have happened but I find it quite an overreaction. I think Reed needs to save a few puppies from a river and start doing some tremendous charity work on the scale of Bubba Watson to try and show a humble human side. He is quite clearly not even a pantomime villian these days but a genuinely hated person.

 

[BubbaP]

Be interesting to read what was actually said. Fine line between supporting your side, banter, and abuse

 

[Whydowedoit]

Why wasnt the abusive "spectator" thrown out rather than the caddie?? Doesnt seem right at all.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Be interesting to read what was actually said. Fine line between supporting your side, banter, and abuse

BBC report on it
Verbal abuse towards Reed so the caddy jumps down from a cart to join in.
Personally I think Reed needs to show a huge amount of humility and accept he cheated instead of trying to make excuses. He also needs to stop responding to the crowds response to him. As my dad always said, you cant argue with someone who stays quiet.

Its a shame, as prior to this event I actually quite liked Reed and his combatative nature, especially as he is one of the few Americans happy to play the European tour. Now though he strikes me as a" win at all costs, even if that means cheating", and I don't like people like that.

 

[Dan2501]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1205756318453260288

Things going well for “Captain America”

 

[Jacko_G]

It's always easier to kick a man when he's down to be fair.

 

[Tashyboy]

So let me get this right, when the ryder cup is on in america the abuse the Europe team gets is fair play coz no one is ejected, the abuse monty got over the years is fair game. But a unapologetic cheat is being kicked when he is down. Nope like i said, this aint going away. He is tarnished for life. Wonder what his sponsors think

 

[clubchamp98]

I think it was only one lie that he improved = one breach

HE Improved his lie, so he has a new lie.
He improved it again And even better lie, so that’s twice for me.

 

[Slab]

HE Improved his lie, so he has a new lie.
He improved it again And even better lie, so that’s twice for me.

Not quite how it works though

 

[Backache]

HE Improved his lie, so he has a new lie.
He improved it again And even better lie, so that’s twice for me.

He only played one stroke from it, ie the lie was only made better for one shot even if there were two actions to do it. .

 

[Swinglowandslow]

So let me get this right, when the ryder cup is on in america the abuse the Europe team gets is fair play coz no one is ejected, the abuse monty got over the years is fair game. But a unapologetic cheat is being kicked when he is down. Nope like i said, this aint going away. He is tarnished for life. Wonder what his sponsors think

No, the abuse that Monty got was outright wrong and action should have been taken.
I must be an old dinosaur because I think all this so called banter is more likely abuse, done to put off the recipient. It is not at all like the banter which we have when we play together.
The stuff that comes from so called fans when these events take place is a blight on the sport. I don't see why spectator participation cannot be confine s to applause, or groans or Oohs and Ahs, etc.
Some years ago, I went to Wentworth to see the Pros:
everyone was respectful, though excited to see the best. Nowadays it seems that yobs and drunks are too easily tolerated.

 

[USER1999]

It's always easier to kick a man when he's down to be fair.

Isn't that the best time?