Pace Of Play - what can be done to improve it

[bluewolf]

aimpoint takes forever and is very annoying when a PP is using it!

Don't start that old chestnut again!!!
FWIW, I'm not sure that the real causes of slow play can be influenced in enough numbers to make a genuine difference.. My own pet hate is the PP who, when confronted, states "I've paid my money, I'll take as long as I want." What difference is this going to make to them?

 

[stevelev]

Aimpoint is a nightmare and sadly becoming more popular....

Two separate issues - lining up the ball can be a faff but aimpoint takes forever and is very annoying when a PP is using it!

I bet it doednt take as long as you farting round lining up over and over again, at least they only read once

 

[garyinderry]

Something about aim point doesn't sit right with me. Much more so than anchored putting strokes.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I bet it doednt take as long as you farting round lining up over and over again, at least they only read once

Not sure why you think I line it up - I don't. Aimpoint is atrocious - takes forever.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Don't start that old chestnut again!!!
FWIW, I'm not sure that the real causes of slow play can be influenced in enough numbers to make a genuine difference.. My own pet hate is the PP who, when confronted, states "I've paid my money, I'll take as long as I want." What difference is this going to make to them?

If someone who doesn't use aimpoint finds that things are slower when playing with someone who does - then it's not an old chestnut. It's a truthful observation and not an opinion. I know nothing about aimpoint and don't think I've played with someone using it - but it does sound to me that aimpointers are in denial.

 

[bluewolf]

If someone who doesn't use aimpoint finds that things are slower when playing with someone who does - then it's not an old chestnut. It's a truthful observation and not an opinion. I know nothing about aimpoint and don't think I've played with someone using it - but it does sound to me that aimpointers are in denial.

I don't use aim point, I just can't be Mike Harris'd reading through the usual 10 pages of discussion about Aimpoint.

 

[FairwayDodger]

If someone who doesn't use aimpoint finds that things are slower when playing with someone who does - then it's not an old chestnut. It's a truthful observation and not an opinion. I know nothing about aimpoint and don't think I've played with someone using it - but it does sound to me that aimpointers are in denial.

Pray that you never have to suffer a playing partner using aimpoint.

 

[bluewolf]

Pray that you never have to suffer a playing partner using aimpoint.

Stop poking the bloody bear will you

 

[stevelev]

Aimpoint is a nightmare and sadly becoming more popular....

Stop poking the bloody bear will you

ha ha

 

[chellie]

Would a round of 3hrs 15 minutes including a loo break after nine and picking up a brew at the half way house ( but not stopping there to drink it) be considered slow?

 

[3565]

They probably would speed up play quite considerably, because there would be fewer putts and players would have more confidence about holing short ones!

And what do you think Aimpoints purpose is then? and have you taken the course?

 

[FairwayDodger]

Would a round of 3hrs 15 minutes including a loo break after nine and picking up a brew at the half way house ( but not stopping there to drink it) be considered slow?

Sounds like a leading question but, no, that doesn't seem slow. Don't tell me you were using aimpoint?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

They need to take the bull by the horns and reduce an official golf round to 12 holes........simples.

 

[delc]

They need to take the bull by the horns and reduce an official golf round to 12 holes........simples.

You can get round 18 holes in not much more than 3 hours if you don't faff around!

 

[nickjdavis]

Not sure why you think I line it up - I don't. Aimpoint is atrocious - takes forever.

Doesn't have to take forever if done properly.

Someone who actually knows what they are doing when using Aimpoint can have a read in 10 seconds.... especially with the Express system.... sure the original system took some tie to get used to and "training yourself" to use it effectively and quickly took some time.... but once you were au fait with the system.... didn't really add much time at all.

I'm wondering if all these folks complaining about lining up lines on balls actually consider the time saved in actually taking a bit more care over a putt and holing it (if a short one) or leaving a tap in (if a longer putt) when compared to having to go through the whole routine again when the player has missed it by a fair margin?

 

[stevelev]

Doesn't have to take forever if done properly.

Someone who actually knows what they are doing when using Aimpoint can have a read in 10 seconds.... especially with the Express system.... sure the original system took some tie to get used to and "training yourself" to use it effectively and quickly took some time.... but once you were au fait with the system.... didn't really add much time at all.

I'm wondering if all these folks complaining about lining up lines on balls actually consider the time saved in actually taking a bit more care over a putt and holing it (if a short one) or leaving a tap in (if a longer putt) when compared to having to go through the whole routine again when the player has missed it by a fair margin?

And the hook has been taken

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Not sure why you think I line it up - I don't. Aimpoint is atrocious - takes forever.

Aimpoint takes me 20 seconds using the chart and less than that if I use the express version. Can usually be done while players are coming on to the green

 

[stevelev]

Never mid the hook, a net will be needed.

Can we get back to the OP post, aimpoint deserves its own section in the forum ne:

 

[chellie]

Sounds like a leading question but, no, that doesn't seem slow. Don't tell me you were using aimpoint?

No aimpoint here. Just the fact that my FC and myself were constantly pushed from before we'd even finished the first and we both felt it, rushed and our golf suffered Same happened to an earlier pair as well.

 

[Imurg]

You can get round 18 holes in not much more than 3 hours if you don't faff around!

If you really get a move on, a 2 ball can get round in 2 hours...but why would you want to?

My question is - How fast do people want to get round?
Is much of the perception of slow play down to the amount of time we have available to play? - I have 3 hrs 45 minutes spare, therefore if the round takes more than 3 hours its been slow.
Are people stopping playing cricket - I don't know, but it takes a damn sight longer than a round of golf.
Golf is a hard game and it takes time to play.
Sometimes it gets silly and takes longer - so does getting round the M25
Sometimes the pace is slow and nothing will speed it up if you're the 20th group out - the pace is set.
You either have to get on with it or go home.

I'm not saying there isn't a problem, there obviously is.
But, in real terms, if a round takes 4 hours instead of 3 hrs 30 does it really matter a bundle..?
Or 4 hrs 45 instead of 4 hrs 15....?