PaulMdj
Well-known member
But in both Comps you are trying your best and for Handicap purposes that 8 will become a 7 or a 6, also depending on when that bad hole happens you hope you can get it back.
On a Day by Day basis which would you rather play?
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GreiginFife
Money List Winner
In my experience, you get an 8 in a medal, you ain’t getting that back. 2 or 3 birdies to even it out.
Yes you are trying your best in both formats but the any big numbers don’t have the same effect in one of those formats.
I sometimes read on here things like “two blobs but managed 36 points and came second or third or whatever” but what would those blobs have meant to a medal score?
PaulMdj
Well-known member
It’s a mindset thing as I mentioned before, you tee off hoping to play well and make every shot count, in terms of the Comp it can stop you winning, but for handicap purposes an 8 or 10 or NR in the medal or an 8 or 10 NR in the stableford comp will be exactly the same score for handicap purposes.
We do encourage people to pick up when they can’t score when playing Stableford, but that is for pace of play reasons.
A blob means zero points (as you know) but could be from someone picking up or continuing until they putt out! They still need to try and recover from that bad hole, no different to Medal in that respect, except for not being able to win with a NR on the card.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
No, I get what you are saying. But still being able to win a comp even with a 12 on a hole changes the mindset. They are two very different formats so the mindset is different.
Handicapping purposes is a completely different matter to competing.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
For the most part it always seems to be single figure players who prefer medal and mid or higher handicaps prefer Stableford. For obvious reasons really - low caps are less likely to have a real blow-up hole so they don't really get the benefit of Stableford.
At my club the majority of board comps are medals, which I think is correct as it's obviously more of a test.
At my club the majority of board comps are medals, which I think is correct as it's obviously more of a test.
RedEyes
Member
We usually play both when playing socially, mark the medal score down as we're playing and then tally the Stableford up when having a pint in the clubhouse.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I've always preferred medal (gross) scoring, even when I couldn't break 110. Doesn't matter if its solo golf, social or comp
Most comps I play in these days are stableford but given I can't control my chance of winning, my primary interest is still 'what was my gross score' Nett has no real bearing except to the placing in a medal comp & only relates to that particular day & I'll easily work out my points just from the gross score anyway
Points are a handy way to keep pace going in a full field but relies on the entire field picking up when they can't score, which I doubt they all do (I know I've putted out when I knew it was for '0' points)
Most comps I play in these days are stableford but given I can't control my chance of winning, my primary interest is still 'what was my gross score' Nett has no real bearing except to the placing in a medal comp & only relates to that particular day & I'll easily work out my points just from the gross score anyway
Points are a handy way to keep pace going in a full field but relies on the entire field picking up when they can't score, which I doubt they all do (I know I've putted out when I knew it was for '0' points)
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
There should be a " don't mind I'm playing golf" option....
bobmac
Major Champion
Medal
In stableford, the approach to risky shots would be different.
''If I go for that sucker pin next to the water, a blob is the worst that can happen''.
In medal, it's middle of the green, two putts and attack the easy pins later.
In stableford, the approach to risky shots would be different.
''If I go for that sucker pin next to the water, a blob is the worst that can happen''.
In medal, it's middle of the green, two putts and attack the easy pins later.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
You still don't want blobs though obviously, so I don't think it's that different. I would be playing the shot I had most confidence in, no matter which format it was.
Surely for a good player the formats should be almost no different at all, you're just trying to make par or birdie either way? The only reason the low players don't like Stableford is because it helps out higher handicappers.
stymied
Member
Can't tell you the last time I played stableford, probably 10 years ago playing in some open comp when visiting the UK. Not something we play in the US. That being said for posting to the handicap, max score is net double so will often pick up on a hole I'm blowing up.
Additionally, often have some sort of match play/points game going if playing with friends.
Additionally, often have some sort of match play/points game going if playing with friends.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
A 20-handicpper goes round in 16-over.
A 12-handicapper goes round in 10-over but drops 7 shots on two holes.
He beats the 20-handicapper whose net score was better than his and gets his name on the trophy.
The 20-handicapper decides that he doesn't like stableford.
Its a fun novelty format to be enjoyed, but most comps should have the best golf score as the winner.
A 12-handicapper goes round in 10-over but drops 7 shots on two holes.
He beats the 20-handicapper whose net score was better than his and gets his name on the trophy.
The 20-handicapper decides that he doesn't like stableford.
Its a fun novelty format to be enjoyed, but most comps should have the best golf score as the winner.
medal, i rarely play stableford through choice, some of the winter comps at Tain are Stableford
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
Stableford makes me enjoy it just that bit more, so that.
But I agree medals are the true test.
I just play golf for fun.
But I agree medals are the true test.
I just play golf for fun.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Scratch foursomes is in fact my favourite format…a great challenge and feeling when you win…but not something I’d necessarily want to play every day though.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
But the 20capper was trounced on their gross score by the 12 guy (& with gross strokes having as much bearing to the comp result as nett scores there's no need for him to feel aggrieved)
hambugerpete
Well-known member
But they were playing a stapleford so this is irrelevant no ?
PaulMdj
Well-known member
I’m confused!
If it’s a Stableford Comp the 20 handicapper will have 40 points, the 12 handicapper will have 38 points.
If it’s Stroke the 20 handicapper is 4 under and the 12 handicapper 2 under.
What is the format and why would the 20 handicapper not like Stableford?
PaulMdj
Well-known member
Surely that’s only if, for some reason they’d entered a scratch comp?But the 20capper was trounced on their gross score by the 12 guy (& with gross strokes having as much bearing to the comp result as nett scores there's no need for him to feel aggrieved)
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Surely that’s only if, for some reason they’d entered a scratch comp?
Yes that's what i'm suggesting, nett (or gross) have no bearing to placings so no need for the 20 handicapper to feel hard done by just because he had a lower nett in a stableford
