Official Society Handicaps

[ger147]

Why is so hard to some of you that clubs and societies are the same - they are people trying to enjoy a lovely game - some club members seem to think that they are Gods gift - sadly this forum seems to attract them - bye

They are not the same.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

You really are in a world of your own - bye

The only dreamer around here is you.

You haven't answered a single straight question throughout this debate despite being given every opportunity.

You somehow see yourself as the knight in shining armour with your half-baked ideas and yet you cannot be honest with us over your desire to give the members of societies the benefits of golf club membership with none of the responsibilities or costs.

You are I am afraid a sad, sad man with a chip on your shoulder.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The only dreamer around here is you.

You haven't answered a single straight question throughout this debate despite being given every opportunity.

You somehow see yourself as the knight in shining armour with your half-baked ideas and yet you cannot be honest with us over your desire to give the members of societies the benefits of golf club membership with none of the responsibilities or costs.

You are I am afraid a sad, sad man with a chip on your shoulder.

Bravo sir. Really can't see how the figures in the strange golfing parallel universe would give any club sufficient revenue to exist. If it was that simple it would have been done a long time ago

 

[Duckster]

I care because I care, and am not blinkered like some! - Congu is a quango that will change - ask them when Slope is coming in - it is coming, believe me! - Handicap system will be so much better then

But why? Why do you care? If you don't like CONGU then who really gives a damn. You've got a society and your society handicap rocks!

It's not as if you need to use a CONGU handicap to go into club Opens that you are not helping to support by being a society member.

But you don't need that. You play Wentworth and other high profile courses with your society, using your society handicap. So that's that bit sorted.....

Come on fella. Grow up. Smell the bacon.

 

[Bazz]

I can't believe I just read all of that

 

[LCVreg]

I can't believe I just read all of that

Nope I agree! - Reading all the other items on the various Forums, one has the same detritus of names that give their sometimes, warped opinions, which in many situations are factually incorrect. I offered up simple ideas, they might not be in everyones interest, but they are ideas, and to read some of the blinkered views then it is no wonder that Golf Club membership is falling, courses are closing, and thousands are leaving the game - many who have commented on this post are blinkered and are typical of the cause of the decline of the sport - I shall not bother here any more - I shall get back and continue what I do, which incidently in golf is a lot more than many of the commentators realise!

 

[LCVreg]

Bravo sir. Really can't see how the figures in the strange golfing parallel universe would give any club sufficient revenue to exist. If it was that simple it would have been done a long time ago

Have you ever played outside the UK? - Go and play in USA, then you will see how it can be done properly and fairly!

 

[SammmeBee]

....then it is no wonder that Golf Club membership is falling, courses are closing, and thousands are leaving the game....

Lots of clubs doing well at the moment, only the badly managed ones (probably by people like you) are the ones closing, which actually benefits all the clubs nearby.

The number of golfers has been fairly static in the UK for many years - 1000s are not leaving the game.....

 

[Hobbit]

Nope I agree! - Reading all the other items on the various Forums, one has the same detritus of names that give their sometimes, warped opinions, which in many situations are factually incorrect. I offered up simple ideas, they might not be in everyones interest, but they are ideas, and to read some of the blinkered views then it is no wonder that Golf Club membership is falling, courses are closing, and thousands are leaving the game - many who have commented on this post are blinkered and are typical of the cause of the decline of the sport - I shall not bother here any more - I shall get back and continue what I do, which incidently in golf is a lot more than many of the commentators realise!

You've made a number of suggestions and shared a number of ideas. Several people have asked questions and most have disagreed. That's life. If your ideas had traction with people who also want the game to grow they would have been accepted.

Have you thought that maybe your ideas haven't been accepted because they are rubbish ideas? I for one raised a number of points, which you chose to ignore which leads me to feel there's no substance to your proposals.

Now you choose to ride off in a huff, making comments about "detritus " and how you do loads for golf..... Be careful you don't trip over that massive ego.

 

[Smiffy]

So I tip up at your Society, play 3 duff rounds and you hand me a handicap of 18.
My official is 12.
What you going to do?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

LCV......you have posted some rubbish on this thread but to say you have played 378 courses including the Old course but RND is the best really takes the biscuit!

 

[DCB]

Nope I agree! - Reading all the other items on the various Forums, one has the same detritus of names that give their sometimes, warped opinions, which in many situations are factually incorrect. I offered up simple ideas, they might not be in everyones interest, but they are ideas, and to read some of the blinkered views then it is no wonder that Golf Club membership is falling, courses are closing, and thousands are leaving the game - many who have commented on this post are blinkered and are typical of the cause of the decline of the sport - I shall not bother here any more - I shall get back and continue what I do, which incidently in golf is a lot more than many of the commentators realise!

Bye. Don't let the door hit you on the backside on the way out

 

[Simbo]

Why is so hard to some of you that clubs and societies are the same - they are people trying to enjoy a lovely game - some club members seem to think that they are Gods gift - sadly this forum seems to attract them - bye

How are they the same??


you really can't see past the end of your own nose, 99% of the forum disagree with you, yet you continue to wallow in your own crap and shout from the rooftops about how you are right. Yet can't answer a straight question or give any subsidence in your argument.
Then take the huff puff when everyone doesn't jump on your bandwagon.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Nope I agree! - Reading all the other items on the various Forums, one has the same detritus of names that give their sometimes, warped opinions, which in many situations are factually incorrect. !

Maybe your theories are warped? You have quoted lots of 'facts' and statistics throughout this thread but when people have asked for links to support them you haven't been able to produce anything.

Golf clubs down here in Dorset appear to be doing pretty well........unless you can provide facts to show otherwise?

 

[Old Skier]

Why is so hard to some of you that clubs and societies are the same - they are people trying to enjoy a lovely game - some club members seem to think that they are Gods gift - sadly this forum seems to attract them - bye

Im not gods gift, I don't give out gifts.

So are you going to say who's going to pay for the upkeep of the courses when we all just play society golf or just come up with an idea and not the solution.

As your from deepest darkest have you just lost your club to a housing development.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

The OP has on several occasions in this thread praised the Slope system for equalising effective handicaps.

However, it may just be my aged, feeble mind but I cannot see how that would work with his idea of "official" handicaps for society only golfers.

Does the Slope system not need you to retain a handicap at a home course and each course is then Slope rated?

Thus a 10 handicapper whose home course is at the higher end of the Slope would, in an open competition receive less than his handicap if the host course was more lowly ranked on the Slope and vice versa.

How, therefore, can someone be accommodated within that if they do not have a home club?

Or is this a case of a dinosaur not understanding the nuances of the Slope.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

The OP has on several occasions in this thread praised the Slope system for equalising effective handicaps.

However, it may just be my aged, feeble mind but I cannot see how that would work with his idea of "official" handicaps for society only golfers.

Does the Slope system not need you to retain a handicap at a home course and each course is then Slope rated?

Thus a 10 handicapper whose home course is at the higher end of the Slope would, in an open competition receive less than his handicap if the host course was more lowly ranked on the Slope and vice versa.

How, therefore, can someone be accommodated within that if they do not have a home club?

Or is this a case of a dinosaur not understanding the nuances of the Slope.

Or maybe Plonkersaurus has fallen down the slope and cannot get back up

 

[LCVreg]

LCV......you have posted some rubbish on this thread but to say you have played 378 courses including the Old course but RND is the best really takes the biscuit!

Sorry error - Royal County Down is the best ever, Pebble Beach 2nd, St Andrews (Old) 3rd, and RND would be in the top 10 for history alone..........I see you quote Hayling Island club, are you the manager there then!...If so, you should know me!.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Nope I agree! - Reading all the other items on the various Forums, one has the same detritus of names that give their sometimes, warped opinions, which in many situations are factually incorrect. I offered up simple ideas, they might not be in everyones interest, but they are ideas, and to read some of the blinkered views then it is no wonder that Golf Club membership is falling, courses are closing, and thousands are leaving the game - many who have commented on this post are blinkered and are typical of the cause of the decline of the sport - I shall not bother here any more - I shall get back and continue what I do, which incidently in golf is a lot more than many of the commentators realise!

Do you have the statistics to back up these sort of statements ?!

 

[LCVreg]

So I tip up at your Society, play 3 duff rounds and you hand me a handicap of 18.
My official is 12.
What you going to do?

So whats different with the same three cards at your club if you were to apply to join again?