Official Society Handicaps

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so how do you vet peoples h/caps if all your members havent got one?
they might be good golfers ,but they havent got a h/cap ,so how do you stop the bandits joining and taking your prizes every time.
i for one wouldnt trust a society h/cap
 
LCVreg said:
You obviously have not seen the official figures over the past two years - so what is wrong with an affiliated society offering handicaps? - One society that I run has played over 350 events since 1988 @ 15 per year, averaging 25 per meeting, and I can assure you that the members handicaps are a darn site more accurate that their club handicaps. And its all types of clubs, we play, which has included St andrews New & Old, Sillouth, RND, Saunton, Wentworth, Canmberley Heath, West Hill, Broadstone, remedy Oak.................shall I go on?
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Still not convinced. Have you got a link to the official figures?

From my own experience, with a society of over 80 members averaging over 30 at outings, the winning scores were often outlandish. And that was when using the CONGU system. One of the problems was that members didn't come to every outing. Many members played almost every week but might only turn up to half a dozen of the outings. If there's several rounds played with mates, and cards aren't returned for handicapping purposes, how can their handicap be accurate?

As to a society having an official CONGU handicap, and not entering club opens etc, I don't have a problem with that at all. Manage it however you like but if players aren't returning cards on a regular basis, but playing regularly, I wouldn't want to be competing against them in opens.
 
I've played in many societies and run three and I have never been in one were the handicap adjustments are implemented correctly. Congratulations for doing it correctly, do you do it manually or by recommended software.
 
Look, and you will find the official figures over the last few years! - You hit the nail on the head in saying that it is the "only" way to get an official handicap - WHY? - Its just a ruse to keep members clubs charging or trying to charge outlandish sums - surely a true handicap is exactly that, irrespective of whether it is from an "official" club or not - CLUB and CONGU must change, or else the numbers playing gold will continue to plummet - do please read the official reports!
 
LCVreg said:
Look, and you will find the official figures over the last few years! - You hit the nail on the head in saying that it is the "only" way to get an official handicap - WHY? - Its just a ruse to keep members clubs charging or trying to charge outlandish sums - surely a true handicap is exactly that, irrespective of whether it is from an "official" club or not - CLUB and CONGU must change, or else the numbers playing gold will continue to plummet - do please read the official reports!
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post up a link mate :thup:
 
You have just agreed with me ! - Society handicaps CAN be better than club ones just for the fact that all who play in Society meetings will / can have their hcaps adjusted - how many do this at their clubs on their twice a week roll ups!?
 
LCVreg said:
Look, and you will find the official figures over the last few years! - You hit the nail on the head in saying that it is the "only" way to get an official handicap - WHY? - Its just a ruse to keep members clubs charging or trying to charge outlandish sums - surely a true handicap is exactly that, irrespective of whether it is from an "official" club or not - CLUB and CONGU must change, or else the numbers playing gold will continue to plummet - do please read the official reports!
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Which "official" reports and figures are you talking about ?

Please post up the link for the official figures that you are talking about

And please why exactly do you need to have official HC if you are just playing society golf ?
 
LCVreg said:
Read GCMA, EGU, etc etc
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Read what exactly ? You keep talking about official figures but for what exactly you haven't said - if you let me know exactly which figures you are talking about I will read it
 
Obviously posted by someone who has a chip on his shoulder about golf clubs.

Clubs and their operation of the handicap system are monitored by the authorities. How would that be possible with the looser structures of societies and if the society was not more relaxed in its structure what is the point? Why not join a club?
 
Oh yes, one would expect abuse - I am a club member, an ex captain and many other attributes that I will not mention, and I certainly do not have a chip on my shoulder. Do you honestly think that the authorities monitor it all - Ha - I have run Club handicaps and their systems for years and can assure you that it is far from what you seem to elude! - If you care to read what I said, properly run societies (a la, same rules as clubs etc), then you might find a way to see what I am saying. He who operates the club handicap system for the club has full and utter control of the handicapping - full stop! - the counties and EGU are dependant solely on what they are told by the handicapping person from each club - if you don,t believe me, well do the job itself and find out!
 
Okay, we get it, you don't like the handicap system we have in this country. You don't like golf clubs...although where would the societies play without them.

How about changing the record, we've heard this one before ... many times before :mad:
 
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