Obesity

[Papas1982]

I find it interesting that the thin malnourished get pity and understanding. No-one feels the need to abuse them or tell them to just eat a Mars bar. On the other hand there's cart-blanche to abuse the large malnourished. It's their fault. They're weak. They get standard response of "just eat less".

On both extremes, by the time you get to life limiting levels it's a mental issue as much as a physical one.

(And for the sake of full disclosure - I'm definitely one of the big ones )

Generally speaking though. Those that under eat intentially will almost certainly have a mental issue.

Whilst some big people may do. Lots will be pure laziness.

 

[Sats]

To me the problem stems from the lack of education in schools about the types of food and the exercise needed to burn foods.

Also, in the UK it’s cheaper to eat shite if it’s on the go instead of healthy. Reduce or scrap tax / vat on any healthy foods and load the lost tax on the crap. The saving to the NHS cost would out weigh any losses and also relieve pressures on the NHS

For the record so it’s not stated that I’m judgemental, I’m a chubby bugger. My statement comes from someone first hand who dropped two stone through healthy eating two years ago, the frustrating thing was a salad on the bounce could be three times the cost of junk!

Eating healthy on the go can be expensive - this is why tupperware and meal prepping is my friend. If I am stuck for snacks I go for cottage cheese, nuts or quorn cocktail sausages. For meals on the go if I am stuck I go for a chicken shish kebab, or if there's a nearby Nandos then I'm lucky as I get good discount at Nandos. Comparatively a large meal deal at the golden arches is about £6-7, where as a meal at Nandos it around £10 (with my discount is goes to £6.)

 

[ColchesterFC]

What I have never understood is how people get to be in the majorly obese category. I'm carrying a few more pounds than is healthy but I know that when my 34" waist jeans start getting a bit tight it's time to lose a few pounds. The people who are massively overweight must get to that stage and think "I know, I'll but a 36" waist". Then that pair get a bit tight so they go up to a 38" waist. And so it goes on until they are buying 50" waist trousers. What is it that makes these people think it's a good solution to simply buy bigger clothes each time they get too fat for the previous ones?

 

[Beedee]

Generally speaking though. Those that under eat intentially will almost certainly have a mental issue.

Whilst some big people may do. Lots will be pure laziness.

Some of it undoubtedly is. A few stone overweight probably is laziness. 100lbs+ not sure. There's a lot of emotional issues when you get that big. A lot of self-loathing and feelings of worthlessness.

There's also body dismorphia issues. Just like anorexics don't see they're that thin, or gym bunnies with microscopic testicles don't realise they're already stupidly over muscled, some overweight people don't really see their problem, especially on the way up, until they're at size when their weight becomes a vicious circle. Once you get really big then it becomes harder to change. Exercise hurts and the fat is an active compound in the body, releasing hormones that encourage more fat. This coupled with cheap crap food, purposely designed to feed the addiction doesn't help.

 

[Oddsocks]

Eating healthy on the go can be expensive - this is why tupperware and meal prepping is my friend. If I am stuck for snacks I go for cottage cheese, nuts or quorn cocktail sausages. For meals on the go if I am stuck I go for a chicken shish kebab, or if there's a nearby Nandos then I'm lucky as I get good discount at Nandos. Comparatively a large meal deal at the golden arches is about £6-7, where as a meal at Nandos it around £10 (with my discount is goes to £6.)

Prob is with my job and lack of licence at the moment when I say on the go it really is.

I used to eat lots of sushi, home made soup, weigh just dropped

 

[Sats]

Prob is with my job and lack of licence at the moment when I say on the go it really is.

I used to eat lots of sushi, home made soup, weigh just dropped

Again another reason to meal prep. But sushi is good and home made soup I love doing the following - it's cheap, healthy and good;

Carrots, onion, celery and leeks - dice them up and cook in a little olive oil, add green lentils and then add a water. After the lentils are softened add a stock cub or two, salt and pepper. Blitz in a blender about 3/4 of the soup leaving 1/4 of the chopped veg/ lentils (I like the texture.)
Put into your soup container with about 50g spinach - then I chuck in a can of tuna after I've heated it up for a protein hit. Can make you a little fart machine if you're not used to a lot of fibre in your diet though!

Works out (based on 500g of each veg):
141 calories per serving (200g/ml)
1.3g fat
24.4g Carbs
7.5g protein

Chuck in 50g spinach and a drained 180g can of tuna and its;

337 calories per serving
51g Protein
26g Carbs
3g Fat

And it doesn't cost the earth and is easy to prep.

 

[pendodave]

It takes self-discipline, will-power and hard work to stay in shape and not put weight on, especially with all the temptations seemingly everywhere:

Does it though? I've been pretty much the same weight since my early 20s (now mid 50s). I eat nice food (but not rubbish), I drink socially but not to excess. Doesn't seem that hard. As someone who has a passing interest in my health, I'm well aware that there's little extra fun, and a lot more downside, in consuming more.
I agree that losing weight must be an effort, and I'm sure I'd be as bad at it as anyone else.
The question is, how to pursuade people not to put on weight in the first place? We seem to have stopped people taking up smoking by a variety of methods, but not sure they'd work on eating...

 

[USER1999]

Another issue is hidden calories. They are not well hidden, granted, but people don't realise how many calories are in their coke, or double mocha lattes.

And alcohol? That has been my weakness, and by cutting down, alot, have lost 1 1/2 stone.

 

[Papas1982]

Some of it undoubtedly is. A few stone overweight probably is laziness. 100lbs+ not sure. There's a lot of emotional issues when you get that big. A lot of self-loathing and feelings of worthlessness.

There's also body dismorphia issues. Just like anorexics don't see they're that thin, or gym bunnies with microscopic testicles don't realise they're already stupidly over muscled, some overweight people don't really see their problem, especially on the way up, until they're at size when their weight becomes a vicious circle. Once you get really big then it becomes harder to change. Exercise hurts and the fat is an active compound in the body, releasing hormones that encourage more fat. This coupled with cheap crap food, purposely designed to feed the addiction doesn't help.

Oh I agree that a lot of those that get to the point of no return are already past it.

But I do think that the approach to it has been wrong. You mentioned earlier about thin shaming not happening.

But it does. We are told how we shouldn't look at models as examples as its unrealistic and will depress us. That supermodels are unhealthy etc. Whilst all the time stores are selling tops with big is beautiful.

I don't know the numbers. But I'd hazard a guess that obesity leads to more deaths than anorexia.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

What I have never understood is how people get to be in the majorly obese category. I'm carrying a few more pounds than is healthy but I know that when my 34" waist jeans start getting a bit tight it's time to lose a few pounds. The people who are massively overweight must get to that stage and think "I know, I'll but a 36" waist". Then that pair get a bit tight so they go up to a 38" waist. And so it goes on until they are buying 50" waist trousers. What is it that makes these people think it's a good solution to simply buy bigger clothes each time they get too fat for the previous ones?

The two women at my work who are obese live in lycra leggings. They just stretch and still feel comfy. Lycra has a lot to answer for.

I'm the same as you on the trouser front. I've been in 34" trousers for about 15-20 yrs. When the button gets tight I ease back. My weight goes on my belly so it's a good warning sign. A bit of self discipline is not tough.

 

[Tashyboy]

Sort of glad I'm a bit of a phatboy as I don't then have to feel the need to spend time being judgemental of others... Can become a slippery slope...

PHAT meaning
Pussy
Hips
And
Tits
On a Phatboy. 😂

 

[Tashyboy]

The two women at my work who are obese live in lycra leggings. They just stretch and still feel comfy. Lycra has a lot to answer for.

I'm the same as you on the trouser front. I've been in 34" trousers for about 15-20 yrs. When the button gets tight I ease back. My weight goes on my belly so it's a good warning sign. A bit of self discipline is not tough.

This. ^^^

 

[Sats]

PHAT meaning
Pussy
Hips
And
Tits
On a Phatboy. 😂

 

[MegaSteve]

PHAT meaning
Pussy
Hips
And
Tits
On a Phatboy. 😂

Or the more likely...

Penis HUGE and Terrifying...

 

[Tashyboy]

Or the more likely...

Penis HUGE and Throbbing. 😳...

 

[williamalex1]

On the Moon you would only weigh 17% of your actual weight, so you wouldn't be obese, you're just on the wrong planet

 

[Oddsocks]

On the Moon you would only weigh 17% of your actual weight, so you wouldn't be obese, you're just on the wrong planet

Aren’t a lot of people?