6inchcup
Journeyman Pro
get a grip man,i was dumbfounded that someone who is playing in a comp at his club didnt know how many clubs he could carry,its not like he was asking some obscure rule it is basic basic knowledge.
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Deleted member 15344
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Believe you have ignored every single point raised to you and just ploughed on down the same path
I hope no new person ever asks you for clarification etc
As golfers we are supposed to represent what a friendly and enjoyable game golf is - you failed on that account.
I have followed golf for decades and been playing for 5 years - I have even had to have a quick check on how many clubs we can carry
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Be dumbfounded yes but your response to him is poor - very poor
marty4
Medal Winner
"How many clubs can you carry guys"
"14 mate"
Done!
"14 mate"
Done!
Stuey01
Journeyman Pro
You are talking about knowledge of basic rules and not bring able to tell him in THE SAME SENTENCE! It is reasonable to infer from that you mean you can't tell him about rules. Yet giving information about the rules is not advice.
If that is not what you mean then you aren't expressing yourself clearly at all, perhaps you could try writing in English.
Rumpokid
Challenge Tour Pro
Like it or not, a lot of what 6inchup says is true,might sound harsh but true..I have seen many a clown as you say,roll up with all the gear etc,playing 18 par 71, and would be much better served learning on par 3 9 holers,developing their game and getting the basic knowledge of the game before diving into competition.
chris661
Money List Winner
Is your space bar broken or do you type stuff like that to make it difficult to read on purpose. Basic forum etiquette man.
Don't worry though you probably won't get ridiculed for it unlike your response to a same question.
Back to the op don't worry about some of the crappier responses most folk on here are decent enough and will take the time to answer your questions the best they can.
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Yes that's the perfect way to get more people into golf
Don't allow them onto the big boys course until they are deemed good enough and are restricted to the baby course
6inchcup
Journeyman Pro
we will beg to differ as i stated,in a social game he is more than welcome to ask away and i will tell him everything he wishes know(as best i can) BUT i would expect anyone entering a comp basic knowledge of the rules and etiquette if im a lone voice so be it but thats MY opinion and i will stick with it.
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But he asked the question here "before" the comp so that he knows the rules " before" the comp .
Rumpokid
Challenge Tour Pro
Liverfoolphil..what is wrong with progression?..We have loads of 9 hole par 3 courses where i am, and would recommend to anyone starting up the game...That is NOT the same as what you are inferring.....ZZZZZZZZ..Who said DON'T ALLOW?..Then again, you are always right aren't you
marty4
Medal Winner
Exactly!!
people pay the same membership so who cares how they play or what rules they understand. Unless it starts harming your own game then let people be.
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6inchcup
Journeyman Pro
it was the question he asked,for all i know he may be the local rules committee chairman,asking on a forum a question is fine but asking how many clubs he can carry the night before a comp does that not sound a little strange.
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Can people not progress on a full course ?
Is everyone starting the game out a clown then ?
I may not be right but I do know your attitude is wrong for our game right now - we should be encouraging new people to the game not pushing theme away if they aren't of an acceptable standard
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So what ?
At least he asked on here where I expect he thought he would get a pleasant response and a good luck message.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I got quite a bit of flack on here for suggesting that people shouldn't be able to rock up a golf club and play in a medal in what could be their 4th time ever playing on a golf course.
I stand by my view that players should be at a certain standard before playing in comps. a basic grasp of the rules also wouldn't go amiss. the amount of clubs would certainly be something everyone should know before entering a comp.
being able to shoot buffer zone at 28 handicap stableford would be a decent starting point imo.
I stand by my view that players should be at a certain standard before playing in comps. a basic grasp of the rules also wouldn't go amiss. the amount of clubs would certainly be something everyone should know before entering a comp.
being able to shoot buffer zone at 28 handicap stableford would be a decent starting point imo.
Rumpokid
Challenge Tour Pro
Easier to start up on par 3,s Deep end springs to mind.
Clown was used by post 39 (i think,),by another post, and that was what i was referring too..
Our Game? who are you to judge?..Someone who does not even support his own country?//On your way out,please turn out the lights!...You are correct, you are not right!
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
Seems a lot of people are linking rules knowledge with ability.
Just look at the many rules myths threads where a low handicapper demonstrates poor knowledge of basic rules. You can hack all you want around a par 3 course. This will give you the fundamentals of the game but not necessarily the rules.
Should these questions need asked by the OP? Not if the club was doing a good job of supporting beginners and new members. At the very least a copy of the Quick Guide to the rules should be given to all members when they join.
A new copy every 4 years to existing members might also help stop some of the myths getting established due to zombie rules that sitting in the brains of players.
There is clear demonstration of awareness that a rule does exist, and Jon is simply asking to confirm it. I'd even hazard a guess that asking about the one ball rule shows he might have been infected by a myth from an experienced member (how many beginners do you know would even contemplate the thought that there is a one ball rule at all?)
How this has then expanded to a generalization of ability and indirectly became insulting toward the OP is beyond me.
Just look at the many rules myths threads where a low handicapper demonstrates poor knowledge of basic rules. You can hack all you want around a par 3 course. This will give you the fundamentals of the game but not necessarily the rules.
Should these questions need asked by the OP? Not if the club was doing a good job of supporting beginners and new members. At the very least a copy of the Quick Guide to the rules should be given to all members when they join.
A new copy every 4 years to existing members might also help stop some of the myths getting established due to zombie rules that sitting in the brains of players.
There is clear demonstration of awareness that a rule does exist, and Jon is simply asking to confirm it. I'd even hazard a guess that asking about the one ball rule shows he might have been infected by a myth from an experienced member (how many beginners do you know would even contemplate the thought that there is a one ball rule at all?)
How this has then expanded to a generalization of ability and indirectly became insulting toward the OP is beyond me.
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19thagain
Head Pro
I find it amazing that some golfers have never required assistance re this super sport but knew all the answers from day one ... Oh, and never spent more than three hours going round a course unless some lower handicap player was in front ...... Damn annoying what, what!!
Stan, for the record, had never had a golf club in his hand at the start of a season and was playing off eight at the season end. I do realise by some peoples 'rules' he should still have been on a par three course as he was new to the game but I felt different and enjoyed his golfing journey on his way down to Cat one.
Perhaps the 'golfers' watching him initially, using only an nine iron for all fairway shots, 180yds, 80yds and even out of a bunker, were shocked but he had the feel that most know-alls only dream of.
Did he know the maximum number of clubs for a comp at the start of his golfing experience? The answer is a big NO but he learned along the way from nice people willing to invest in his progress.
Stan, for the record, had never had a golf club in his hand at the start of a season and was playing off eight at the season end. I do realise by some peoples 'rules' he should still have been on a par three course as he was new to the game but I felt different and enjoyed his golfing journey on his way down to Cat one.
Perhaps the 'golfers' watching him initially, using only an nine iron for all fairway shots, 180yds, 80yds and even out of a bunker, were shocked but he had the feel that most know-alls only dream of.
Did he know the maximum number of clubs for a comp at the start of his golfing experience? The answer is a big NO but he learned along the way from nice people willing to invest in his progress.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I can see what 6inchcup is saying. jon is about to play in his first comp. I assume he has put in three cards to get a handicap. you would expect one of his playing partners to explain the basic rules before teeing off for these cards. he could easily have 15 clubs in the bag unknowingly.
people don't really need spoon fed on these types of things. a simple check online for some beginners guides reveal basic knowledge.
http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instruction/golf-beginners-tips#slide=2
point 1, line 1 - 1. You only need a few clubs: You're allowed to carry as many as 14 clubs in your bag.
people don't really need spoon fed on these types of things. a simple check online for some beginners guides reveal basic knowledge.
http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instruction/golf-beginners-tips#slide=2
point 1, line 1 - 1. You only need a few clubs: You're allowed to carry as many as 14 clubs in your bag.
