No Scots in the top 20 of The Open?

This was my thinking. One would have thought that there would be some local qualifiers who know links golf inside out. I mean Westwood is renowned for having a crap short game (the essence of links golf) yet faired better than those who play it day in day out. Even Mickelson only plays it a couple of time/year.

Which tour pros play links golf day in - day out? Wouldn't they be better off playing tour events? :confused:
 
Which tour pros play links golf day in - day out? Wouldn't they be better off playing tour events? :confused:

I think thats what James is getting at, as the pros dont play it , it "seemingly" should be an advantage to local qualifiers that do play links regularly ..


probably a silly question but are the qualifying tournaments for the open that are held in the UK played over links courses aswell ??
 
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I think thats what James is getting at, as the pros dont play it , it "seemingly" should be an advantage to local qualifiers that do play links regularly ..


probably a silly question but are the qualifying tournaments for the open that are held in the UK played over links courses aswell ??

Local Final Qualifying certainly is. It was at North Berwick, Dunbar, Gullane and Musselburgh this year.

Chris's point above is pertinent. However often any of the players play links golf, they will very rarely, if ever, play it on the same set up as it was for The Open.
 
probably a silly question but are the qualifying tournaments for the open that are held in the UK played over links courses aswell ??

Local Final Qualifying certainly as this year, but International certainly isn't (Sunningdale for Europe) certainly isn't. And most Regional Qualifying are not on Linksncourses.
 
I don't think the regular links players ever play it when its as penal as The Open.

Local Final Qualifying certainly is. It was at North Berwick, Dunbar, Gullane and Musselburgh this year.

Chris's point above is pertinent. However often any of the players play links golf, they will very rarely, if ever, play it on the same set up as it was for The Open.

Local Final Qualifying certainly as this year, but International certainly isn't (Sunningdale for Europe) certainly isn't. And most Regional Qualifying are not on Linksncourses.


Cheers for the replies guy , i was thinking links qualifiers "should" ensure that more regular links players should get in , Chris has a very good point tho i guess its a different set up totaly


Out of curiosity then should the courses on the qualifying rota more resemble the open venue ,? would that make more sense ?
 
IJP is half Scottish.........

Percentage of population wise, there should be 10.5 Englishmen for every Scot but I can't be bothered to count them all......

And the Scots would still win in a mass punch up....easily! :D

This really is a fair point however, for such a tiny amount of people we do ok!
 
Cheers for the replies guy , i was thinking links qualifiers "should" ensure that more regular links players should get in , Chris has a very good point tho i guess its a different set up totaly


Out of curiosity then should the courses on the qualifying rota more resemble the open venue ,? would that make more sense ?

As from next year, the LFQ courses will be dotted around the UK, rather than in the vicinity of The Open venue. Four venues have been selected, one in Scotland and three in England covering the North-west, Central and South-coast regions, replacing the courses which are currently selected for their proximity to The Open Championship venue. This is designed to provide a more accessible route into The Open for competitors qualifying from the 16 Regional Qualifying courses around Great Britain and Ireland.

From 2014, the four new courses that have been selected for this Final Qualifying stage are Glasgow — Gailes Links, Hillside, Woburn and Royal Cinque Ports. Competitors will compete for three Championship places, at each venue.
 
We outnumbered the English by 4 to1 at Flodden Field and we still managed to start fighting amongst ourselves.

Not a lot changed in five centuries then :p...

Anyhows I'd like to know where you get your figures for how many Englishmen there are... A Welshmen can be Welsh, a Scotsman can be Scottish but an Englishman has to be British...
 
What's happened to Scottish golf - same answer as to the question What's happened to Australian tennis or French cycling or Austrian skiing or Romanian gymnastics? and so on...

So no big deal - I'm happy that we have #2 tennis player in the world -so let's not be greedy.
 
Not a lot changed in five centuries then :p...

Anyhows I'd like to know where you get your figures for how many Englishmen there are... A Welshmen can be Welsh, a Scotsman can be Scottish but an Englishman has to be British...

The population of each country........simples.

I read a few years ago that there were an estimated 21 million first generation Scots in the world.
I think our rugby team has claimed back a few Ossies, NZ's and Saffas but there are still many out there.

I stood on the Wilts County Golf Exec for a few years and one year all of the senior posts from President to Captain were Scots
 
Aaaah... So the Irish, Welsh and Scots that seemingly surround me are to be considered as ENGLISH as they live in these parts... Can't wait to see their faces when I tell them the good news:D...

Well I might as well be an Englishman living in England in the context of the referendum :( Funnily enough if I was English living in Scotland I would have a vote on the future of Scotland - even if I couoldn't give a s**t about Scotland and left Scotland for good immediately after casting my vote. I have digressed and I shall accept any punishment for doing so but this makes me soooo angry. But I have now counted to 10 and I'm now calm.
 
Well I might as well be an Englishman living in England in the context of the referendum :( Funnily enough if I was English living in Scotland I would have a vote on the future of Scotland - even if I couoldn't give a s**t about Scotland and left Scotland for good immediately after casting my vote. I have digressed and I shall accept any punishment for doing so but this makes me soooo angry. But I have now counted to 10 and I'm now calm.

1. What year did you leave Scotland to live in England?
2. What year do you intending leaving England to return to being habitually domiciled in Scotland?
 
1. What year did you leave Scotland to live in England?
2. What year do you intending leaving England to return to being habitually domiciled in Scotland?

Questions that are asked when the questioner considers the referendum from a relatively short term economic perspective.

Also I am never very sure whether they are asked to exclude me on the grounds I might vote Yes or I might vote No. If both sides argue that I shouldn't get a vote because I wouldn't be immediately affected then why should they worry - it could go either way - and maybe I'd add a longer term perspective to the vote. Besides - I may have lived away for 1 yr, 10yrs or 50yrs. I don't see that that makes any difference whatsoever in the same sort of way that residents of Scotland only have to meet quite short timescale residency requirements - and don't have to commit to staying for even one day after the vote.

I then ask how long it would be before the economic impact of voting Yes would take to have significant effect. Bearing in mind all the subsequent required institutional, constitutional, legal etc changes have been applied - 1 yr, 5yrs, 10yrs? So why bothered about when I might return - to reap the rewards or whirlwinds of a change. If I had a vote would the No campaign require me to return to Scotland within - I dunno - 2yrs of the vote - to suffer the chaos that a Yes vote might cause - even if I voted No?

But hey - let's just estrange and alienate all non-domicile Scots from their own country by excluding them from the referendum on the future of their own country. Though I don't live in Scotland and haven't done so for nearly 30yrs, it's as much my country as it is yours - and if you are not Scottish by birth then it's more my country than yours - regardless of how long you've lived there.

If those domicile in Scotland (and the Scottish politicians) aren't bothered that in future I might not give a monkeys about what happens to Scotland, then by excluding me they are on their way to succeeding with that.

So should and do I care that there isn't a Scot in the Top 20? Well as I care about Scotland then yes I do - but as I said - I'm not concerned that we don't.
 
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