No Scots in the top 20 of The Open?

[blackpuddinmonster]

I have always presumed that anyone who lives permanently in another country takes on there nationality.
I was English for 30 years, now I'm Scottish again.

I've always presumed we were all British.
Here's one for you. My mum was born in Scotland to Scotish parents, but as lived in England for 70+ yrs.
My dad was born in Caven Ireland to Irish parents and lived in England from the age of 2.
I was born in Bury (not got very far).
What am i ? First gen Scot, first gen Irish, English, or just like most on here British?? :thup:

 

[stevie_r]

Questions that are asked when the questioner considers the referendum from a relatively short term economic perspective.

Also I am never very sure whether they are asked to exclude me on the grounds I might vote Yes or I might vote No. If both sides argue that I shouldn't get a vote because I wouldn't be immediately affected then why should they worry - it could go either way - and maybe I'd add a longer term perspective to the vote. Besides - I may have lived away for 1 yr, 10yrs or 50yrs. I don't see that that makes any difference whatsoever in the same sort of way that residents of Scotland only have to meet quite short timescale residency requirements - and don't have to commit to staying for even one day after the vote.

I then ask how long it would be before the economic impact of voting Yes would take to have significant effect. Bearing in mind all the subsequent required institutional, constitutional, legal etc changes have been applied - 1 yr, 5yrs, 10yrs? So why bothered about when I might return - to reap the rewards or whirlwinds of a change. If I had a vote would the No campaign require me to return to Scotland within - I dunno - 2yrs of the vote - to suffer the chaos that a Yes vote might cause - even if I voted No?

But hey - let's just estrange and alienate all non-domicile Scots from their own country by excluding them from the referendum on the future of their own country. Though I don't live in Scotland and haven't done so for nearly 30yrs, it's as much my country as it is yours - and if you are not Scottish by birth then it's more my country than yours - regardless of how long you've lived there.

If those domicile in Scotland (and the Scottish politicians) aren't bothered that in future I might not give a monkeys about what happens to Scotland, then by excluding me they are on their way to succeeding with that.

So should and do I care that there isn't a Scot in the Top 20? Well as I care about Scotland then yes I do - but as I said - I'm not concerned that we don't.

So having left a country 30 years ago, with obviously little intent to return, you feel that you should have a say in determining MY future?

 

[bobmac]

How much links golf does Mickelson play and how does he win majors on both links and parkland ?

 

[stevie_r]

How much links golf does Mickelson play and how does he win majors on both links and parkland ?

Me Miss, Me Miss!!!!

Is the answer hard work?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Anyone who chooses to live in Scotland is Scottish in my books.
It really is quite astonishing how many English born Scottish residents are staunch SNP supporters.
I can never really work that one out.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

How much links golf does Mickelson play and how does he win majors on both links and parkland ?

How much links golf does any pro now play, irrespective of nationality? Crying shame if you ask me that there are not more tournaments played on links courses, particularly in Britain and Ireland.

 

[MegaSteve]

How much links golf does Mickelson play and how does he win majors on both links and parkland ?

Very little and hugely talented...

When I took up the game he was being loudly touted as "the next Jack Nicklaus"... Yes, he's won some majors but it could also be said he's somewhat of an underachiever... Can't think of too many I've enjoyed watching play more...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Anyone who chooses to live in Scotland is Scottish in my books

Sorry DfT - I can hardly believe that you really believe that to be true - because to be it 100% isn't the case. You can't just call yourself Scottish if you happen to live in the country for a month or a year.

 

[bobmac]

Me Miss, Me Miss!!!!

Is the answer hard work?

No, silly Billy
He just gets some super GI clubs and 5 or 6 wedges.
That way, he doesn't have to practice at all

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So having left a country 30 years ago

True

with obviously little intent to return

eh? What makes you think that. I chose to move to England for work hoping I'd be able to return. Circumstances have meant that so far I've not been able to.

you feel that you should have a say in determining MY future?

It's not YOUR future - it's the future of SCOTLAND - so yes I asbsolutely do.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

No, silly Billy
He just gets some super GI clubs and 5 or 6 wedges.
That way, he doesn't have to practice at all

Did I hear correctly that he did not carry a driver on his last round?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Did I hear correctly that he did not carry a driver on his last round?

Mickleson? Don't thnk he carried one throughout but had six wedges.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So how about non-domiciles get a vote but the domicile vote gets 90% weighting and the non-domicile vote gets 10%. That way we non-domiciles have a say but will only have an infuence on the outcome if the domicile vote is close - and surely that is sensible, reasonable and fair.

 

[stevie_r]

So how about non-domiciles get a vote but the domicile vote gets 90% weighting and the non-domicile vote gets 10%. That way we non-domiciles have a say but will only have an infuence on the outcome if the domicile vote is close - and surely that is sensible, reasonable and fair.

Eerrrrm, no.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So how about non-domiciles get a vote but the domicile vote gets 90% weighting and the non-domicile vote gets 10%. That way we non-domiciles have a say but will only have an infuence on the outcome if the domicile vote is close - and surely that is sensible, reasonable and fair.

Hogan you are getting all worked up for no reason.
The chances of an Independent Scotland are about the same as Michael Gove making Prime Minister

 

[In_The_Rough]

Only been away for a while and see politics has taken over a golf thread again

 

[Foxholer]

Mickleson? Don't thnk he carried one throughout but had six wedges.

Exaggerating again! Just the 5 Wedges.

FAIRWAY WOOD: Callaway X Hot 3Deep (13 degree) with a Fubuki K 70x shaft

HYBRID: Ping Anser (17 degree) with a Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Hybrid shaft

IRONS: Callaway X Forged (4-6) with KBS Tour shafts; (7-PW) with KBS Tour V2 shafts

WEDGES: Callaway X Series JAWS (52, 56 degree) and Mack Daddy 2 (60, 64 degree) with KBS Tour V2 shafts

PUTTER: Odyssey Versa #9 Putter

BALL: Callaway HEX Chrome+

Interesting that the hybrid wasn't/isn't a Callaway!

 

[chrisd]

as Michael Gove making Prime Minister

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !

 

[SocketRocket]

So how about non-domiciles get a vote but the domicile vote gets 90% weighting and the non-domicile vote gets 10%. That way we non-domiciles have a say but will only have an infuence on the outcome if the domicile vote is close - and surely that is sensible, reasonable and fair.

How about everyone in the Nation gets a vote. The partial break up of the Union is something that would affect all of us.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Hogan you are getting all worked up for no reason.
The chances of an Independent Scotland are about the same as Michael Gove making Prime Minister

The only thing I get worked up about is being told that my view on the future of my country is irrelevant, and when I try and present an argument for a vote I never hear any arguments other than I don't live there at the moment - as if that's the only thing that matters when considering the future of a country.

Why are folk so against me - as Scots borne and having lived in Scotland for 25yrs - having a vote. What are they so afraid of? That non-doms view Scotland through tartan tinted glasses and would all vote Yes? - or that as we see Scotland from the outside and being once detached from the immediate issues of Scotland today we can take a longer, broader and more impartial view of what might be right or wrong, good or bad for Scotland. Do such non-doms vote Yes or No - who knows. But saying I can't vote because today I don't live there is for me a non-argument - it is simply a statement of geographical fact.

And though I am bothered about the outcome I am more bothered by that fact that I am being ignored and disenfranchised. If you want to build a country in or out of the UK - Scotland will need the support of as many of us non-doms as it can get. Telling us to go away and calling us names is not a good start.