NHS Parking

[MegaSteve]

If you offered free Ring & Ride services from homes to the hospital for staff, you know what, many if not most wouldn't use the service and still moan!

I know hospital staff that live in the same street near me never mind the same area, do they car share when on same shifts, no!

We live in a complain & claim society now when it's everyone else fault when there are alternatives, admittedly not for everyone, but in the main there are alternatives but their not taken up, why, because of laziness and selfishness.


#Incoming.....

For many working at the 'coalface' knowing when your shift will end is unpredictable...
Negating the possibility of 'car sharing'...

 

[Imurg]

For many working at the 'coalface' knowing when your shift will end is unpredictable...
Negating the possibility of 'car sharing'...

HID was supposed to finish by 9 last night but they had an emergency at about 8.15 that took nearly 2 hours to sort. So she got home at 10.30....
Happens a lot if you're on the ward rather than in the office..

 

[doublebogey7]

The big mistake they make is putting Hospitals in city centres .
Most people need to travel to hospital so put them in the brown field sites and sort out the transport links.

Hospitals are in central locations precisely because there are good public transport links. Don't understand how moving them to brown field sites and then having to provide transport links just for the hospital is either sensible or economic.

 

[Kellfire]

The older you get, the more likely you are right visit a hospital. So we should make hospitals less accessible to urban centres so staff can park? Yes that makes total sense.

 

[chrisd]

The older you get, the more likely you are right visit a hospital. So we should make hospitals less accessible to urban centres so staff can park? Yes that makes total sense.

Our local hospital is built on the edge of (a fairly large) town. It has a large car park, regular bus services and access, of course, from taxis and ambulances. I've never heard of a pensioner who couldn't get there and the hospital has a free voluntary transport service in any case.

So, much easier than a town centre location.

 

[Papas1982]

Imo if you travel to work, you are responsible for where you park. I don’t know of many/any of my friends that work in either Southampton or Canterbury city centre and get free parking. City centre space is at a premium.

If parking costs is really the reason for someone not getting into any profession, then maybe that profession isn’t their calling.

Hosputal staff to a great and important job, but much like teachers, that shouldn’t be used as a shield to get special treatment re working rights.

 

[MegaSteve]

Imo if you travel to work, you are responsible for where you park. I don’t know of many/any of my friends that work in either Southampton or Canterbury city centre and get free parking. City centre space is at a premium.

If parking costs is really the reason for someone not getting into any profession, then maybe that profession isn’t their calling.

Hosputal staff to a great and important job, but much like teachers, that shouldn’t be used as a shield to get special treatment re working rights.

If 'working rights' [with regard hours worked] came into play... Then many of the staff wouldn't be on site to serve us...

 

[Papas1982]

If 'working rights' [with regard hours worked] came into play... Then many of the staff wouldn't be on site to serve us...

True, but it's hardly a new phenomenon. People know what they're walking into to. If it's not for you, do something else.

Whilst civil servants are currently in frugal times, they had long enough in the land of milk and honey.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Our parking permits are available to all but are issued on a points scheme, so nursing staff, ancillary staff etc on shift work get more points for doing weekends and nights and therefore are all usually eligible. For admin staff there are criteria like living a set distance (12 miles) from the hospital (checked) and points for car sharing (which is why HID can get one as I count even as a spouse).

All fine and dandy but once the permits are issued, it's first come first served every day. That's where the issues are. There are subsidised travel schemes as well and up to a point the trust is doing as much as it can to be proactive.

 

[Tashyboy]

Imo if you travel to work, you are responsible for where you park. I don’t know of many/any of my friends that work in either Southampton or Canterbury city centre and get free parking. City centre space is at a premium.

If parking costs is really the reason for someone not getting into any profession, then maybe that profession isn’t their calling.

Hosputal staff to a great and important job, but much like teachers, that shouldn’t be used as a shield to get special treatment re working rights.

if you are responsible for where you park, does that mean you get a shovel and make a car park space yourself. 😖Think the whole point of the opening post was that someone got a ticket because there was no where to park when they pay for a parking ticket. Don't think anyone asked for special treatment esp the op, but if you build a Skool,or hospital surely the employer has a statutory right to provide car parking spaces.

 

[Kellfire]

No. They don’t. If they did it would be law.

 

[Papas1982]

if you are responsible for where you park, does that mean you get a shovel and make a car park space yourself. 😖Think the whole point of the opening post was that someone got a ticket because there was no where to park when they pay for a parking ticket. Don't think anyone asked for special treatment esp the op, but if you build a Skool,or hospital surely the employer has a statutory right to provide car parking spaces.

My response was more in regards to the way the thread was going, Re the op yes i'd feel entitled too if i'd paid for one.

The built in bold is fanciful though, my kids school is in a sleepy village and they still don't have enough spaces for staff. How you manage that in a city centre is beyond me, and goes back to another point i made about entitlement. Pretty sure those working unsociable hours at a Maccy d's don't get their own car ark if in city centres......

 

[SocketRocket]

But then, in the real world, how would this be funded? Where would these insanely large car parks go?

I don't understand your point! We have car parks in Hospitals and people have to pay to park in them whether they be staff, patents or visitors. It's disgusting making people in England pay when using them. Whether they are large enough is another matter but still nothing to do with charging mainly vulnerable people to use them.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I have no problem with hospitals charging for parking. Would rather their budgets be spent on medical stuff over providing free parking.
I also understand that whilst staff may pay for a parking permit in set aside areas, the numbers of staff will exceed the numbers of spaces, but sadly thats just the understandable reality of it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I have no problem with hospitals charging for parking. Would rather their budgets be spent on medical stuff over providing free parking.
I also understand that whilst staff may pay for a parking permit in set aside areas, the numbers of staff will exceed the numbers of spaces, but sadly thats just the understandable reality of it.

Would you be happy paying for a season ticket for your football club and then not getting a guaranteed entry into the ground for all the matches? Or paying for a train ticket and then not being allowed on the train as it’s full.
Surely they should only supply the same number of permits as per spaces available? The rest go on a waiting list or make alternative arrangements to park or how they get to work.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Would you be happy paying for a season ticket for your football club and then not getting a guaranteed entry into the ground for all the matches? Or paying for a train ticket and then not being allowed on the train as it’s full.
Surely they should only supply the same number of permits as per spaces available? The rest go on a waiting list or make alternative arrangements to park or how they get to work.

This seems pretty obvious. If you have paid for a space it should be available to you.

 

[bobmac]

Right, we're all set for this life saving heart transplant operation.
Nurse, scalpel........
Nurse?
Nurse?
She called in 10 mins ago doctor, she'll be here as soon as she finds a parking space.

 

[Slab]

Would you be happy paying for a season ticket for your football club and then not getting a guaranteed entry into the ground for all the matches? Or paying for a train ticket and then not being allowed on the train as it’s full.
Surely they should only supply the same number of permits as per spaces available? The rest go on a waiting list or make alternative arrangements to park or how they get to work.

In overall agreement but being 'open' 24/7 they can of course supply far more permits than there are spaces because of shifts/weekends etc

 

[Deleted member 16999]

In overall agreement but being 'open' 24/7 they can of course supply far more permits than there are spaces because of shifts/weekends etc

It’s not an easy solution, but if you didn’t have a permit you’d make alternative arrangements to ensure you get to work on time regardless of shift and days worked, part of the issue seems to be that staff with a permit are giving a false sense of security and level of expectation.
I’m totally sympathetic to the Staff on this one, parking shouldn’t be free, but they also shouldn’t be paying for something that is not available.

 

[clubchamp98]

Hospitals are in central locations precisely because there are good public transport links. Don't understand how moving them to brown field sites and then having to provide transport links just for the hospital is either sensible or economic.

This was about the parking and the current sites are unsuitable.
as I said they built the new one on the same site in Liverpool it would be cheaper to put it outside the city centre.