NFL 2020

[Captainron]

So if they got a 5 yard penalty from getting Brown's defense offside it would have been 1st down and 10 again?

If they had drawn Cleveland offside they would have been given 5 yards which would have given them another set of downs. They had 1 timeout left and what usually happens is that teams call fake snaps while the clock winds down hoping to draw a defender into moving early. Those defenders know that and stayed still waiting for the clock to runout and have the punter come out.
The great thing was to go against every percentage and “tradition” in a tight game with a relatively short field and run a play.

 

[User62651]

If they had drawn Cleveland offside they would have been given 5 yards which would have given them another set of downs. They had 1 timeout left and what usually happens is that teams call fake snaps while the clock winds down hoping to draw a defender into moving early. Those defenders know that and stayed still waiting for the clock to runout and have the punter come out.
The great thing was to go against every percentage and “tradition” in a tight game with a relatively short field and run a play.

Ok so when that last play ran the punter wasn't on the field, that would have been a special teams situation that would have had to have been called? So we expected a series of fake snaps to waste time but in fact they did snap it for real?
Think I'm getting it.

 

[Tashyboy]

Do we know who is going to kill the star spangled banner at the SuperBowl yet

 

[Deleted member 18645]

So if they got a 5 yard penalty from getting Brown's defense offside it would have been 1st down and 10 again?

That is correct. And then they could have just run the clock out.

 

[Deleted member 18645]

Ok so when that last play ran the punter wasn't on the field, that would have been a special teams situation that would have had to have been called? So we expected a series of fake snaps to waste time but in fact they did snap it for real?
Think I'm getting it.

The offense was on the field but yes most people were expecting a lot of players moving around, fake calls at the line etc trying to get the defense to jump. Most people expected them to keep doing that until the play clock reached zero and they then called a time out and brought the punt unit out instead.

 

[Deleted member 18645]

Do we know who is going to kill the star spangled banner at the SuperBowl yet

OH SAY CAN YOU SEE BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT .....

Unless it's the Flock of Seagulls, I'm going to be very disappointed. Actually it will be Eric Church and Jazmine Sullivan. No I've never heard of them either.

 

[Patster1969]

OH SAY CAN YOU SEE BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT .....

Unless it's the Flock of Seagulls, I'm going to be very disappointed. Actually it will be Eric Church and Jazmine Sullivan. No I've never heard of them either.

Nope, new to me.
Re Flock of Seagulls Shark, we were at Epcot in 2019 and they were having weekly live appearances and we happened to be there on the day that FOS's played - total fluke & a real blast from the past

 

[Piece]

That is correct. And then they could have just run the clock out.

Has there ever been an occasion where the take a knee snap to run the clock out has failed. e.g. QB fumble, duff snap?

 

[Deleted member 18645]

Has there ever been an occasion where the take a knee snap to run the clock out has failed. e.g. QB fumble, duff snap?

1978 The Miracle in the Meadowlands - the Giants could have taken a knee but the QB called a run play (in the days where QBs called the plays) and it was fumbled. Herm Edwards picked it up and returned it for a score.

 

[Deleted member 18645]

I really cannot call either of the Conference Championship games. This is the 4th time the Bucs have been there and I have been involved in previewing the game and talking about it on American media all week. The Bucs had every break going last week in New Orleans and now face a far better offense in far different conditions. They will be without Antonio Brown and possibly safety Antoine Winfield too. As for the AFC, there was no way Mahomes was going to be missing the game through concussion - the Bills are playing tremendous football the last two months whilst the Chiefs have been winning but flattering to deceive.

Either way, if the Bucs lose in Green Bay, that will be my interest in the NFL season over.

 

[User62651]

How does a smallish town like Green Bay (same pop'n as Carlisle) sustain such a successful football team? Even with the pull of people from other parts of Wisconsin it's still small scale. Appreciate the draft intentionally helps to even the teams out but it is a puzzle.
You normally associate big teams with big cities?
Green Bay population 104,000. Lambeau Field capacity 81,500. What gives? Does every citizen bar the bed ridden and babies attend on game day?

 

[Captainron]

How the heck is Mahomes cleared to play in 5 days? Concussion usually lasts a minimum of 7 days. It’s a bit fishy. He was out of it for about a minute. Properly wobbly and blank looking.

Wonder how much pressure was put on the independent doctor to clear him to play?

 

[Deleted member 18645]

How does a smallish town like Green Bay (same pop'n as Carlisle) sustain such a successful football team? Even with the pull of people from other parts of Wisconsin it's still small scale. Appreciate the draft intentionally helps to even the teams out but it is a puzzle.
You normally associate big teams with big cities?
Green Bay population 104,000. Lambeau Field capacity 81,500. What gives? Does every citizen bar the bed ridden and babies attend on game day?

Back in the 1920s, in the early days of the NFL, the teams were all concentrated on the East Coast or North of the country. There were many small cities with teams from Providence to Duluth. The Packers, named after the Acme Packing company, were one of them. In the 1960s, there was a concern that the big city teams could dominate the league, Commissioner Pete Rozelle brought in revenue sharing amongst the teams, something baseball never did. This enabled all league revenues to be shared equally amongst the teams or now true franchises. Hence the Packers could survive against New York, Chicago, Los Angeles etc. In terms of popularity, Packer fans come from all over Wisconsin. Until the mid 1980s, they used to play three of their eight home games each season in Milwaukee.

 

[Deleted member 18645]

How the heck is Mahomes cleared to play in 5 days? Concussion usually lasts a minimum of 7 days. It’s a bit fishy. He was out of it for about a minute. Properly wobbly and blank looking.

Wonder how much pressure was put on the independent doctor to clear him to play?

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[Captainron]

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no yes

Somebody is going to get paaaaiiiiiddddd

 

[Kellfire]

I really cannot call either of the Conference Championship games. This is the 4th time the Bucs have been there and I have been involved in previewing the game and talking about it on American media all week. The Bucs had every break going last week in New Orleans and now face a far better offense in far different conditions. They will be without Antonio Brown and possibly safety Antoine Winfield too. As for the AFC, there was no way Mahomes was going to be missing the game through concussion - the Bills are playing tremendous football the last two months whilst the Chiefs have been winning but flattering to deceive.

Either way, if the Bucs lose in Green Bay, that will be my interest in the NFL season over.

Do you give the Bucs any chance if it snows? I know Brady will have enough experience in it but the rest?

 

[User62651]

I really cannot call either of the Conference Championship games. This is the 4th time the Bucs have been there and I have been involved in previewing the game and talking about it on American media all week. The Bucs had every break going last week in New Orleans and now face a far better offense in far different conditions. They will be without Antonio Brown and possibly safety Antoine Winfield too. As for the AFC, there was no way Mahomes was going to be missing the game through concussion - the Bills are playing tremendous football the last two months whilst the Chiefs have been winning but flattering to deceive.

Either way, if the Bucs lose in Green Bay, that will be my interest in the NFL season over.

Does the 38-10 spanking TB gave GB in October count for nothing at this stage?
Must be some psychological advantage to TB there surely?

 

[Deleted member 18645]

Not really - the Bucs had lost twice to the Saints including a 38-3 home humiliation in November. Teams change during the season and we now have the four best teams in the NFL playing their best football (except the Chiefs) when it really counts. Snow is not such a massive home advantage as you think but I do remember a 1985 game when a terrible Bucs team went to Lambeau in a foot of snow playing in white. I have heard some great stories from players who were in that game. The Bucs definitely do have a chance and the gambling line is Green Bay by 3. I can see this being something along the lines of 37-24 Packers but I would be delighted to be totally wrong on this one. We should have a Zoom call before the Super Bowl to talk all things NFL - happy to answer any questions on the game people might have.

 

[User62651]

Antonio brown injured, important or not?
How important is Gronk to this TB offense?

 

[spongebob59]

Not really - the Bucs had lost twice to the Saints including a 38-3 home humiliation in November. Teams change during the season and we now have the four best teams in the NFL playing their best football (except the Chiefs) when it really counts. Snow is not such a massive home advantage as you think but I do remember a 1985 game when a terrible Bucs team went to Lambeau in a foot of snow playing in white. I have heard some great stories from players who were in that game. The Bucs definitely do have a chance and the gambling line is Green Bay by 3. I can see this being something along the lines of 37-24 Packers but I would be delighted to be totally wrong on this one. We should have a Zoom call before the Super Bowl to talk all things NFL - happy to answer any questions on the game people might have.

Why does.the Raiders D suck, but I think you only get an hour on zoom ?.

I'm calling a Packers/Bills superbowl, so expect to see Bugs vs Chiefs.?

Glad the Packers.game is on first as I'll get to watch all of that one.