Next PM?

[CheltenhamHacker]

Unlike in England, his events were attended by dozens at most. He also put his foot in it by showing his ignorance of the seperate Scottish legal system, and most pointedly saying that Holyrood should be spending to mitigate Tory austerity (it actually already spends over £100m doing so) while ignoring the fact that in Wales, Labour spend zero in this area. He toured 18 "target" seats, not a single one is a Tory seat.

He made a bit of a fool of himself.


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-is-deeply-worrying-scottish-voters-on-corbyn

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...orbyn-mocked-saying-problematic-scotland-have

http://thenational.scot/comment/155...langer_proves_how_ignorant_he_is_of_Scotland/

Still haven't seen anything about the crowd sizes coming out of those.

Re: your point about touring non-Tory seats, why would he? He's looked at the smallest majority seats, called them targets. OFTOMH the first "tory" target seat was something like number 90 in his list. That would be like the SNP only touring Welsh constituencies instead of the labour/tory/other seats in Scotoland.

He did indeed drop a big clanger though about the legal system, albeit it sounds like it was a passing comment and much ado about nothing. Sounds like the standard "if he isn't SNP, we don't like him tbh".

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Perhaps you are looking at [and acknowledging] the wrong 'media'.

Scottish media is extremely anti Scots Government and will spin any story against it.

SLAB leaders are falling over themselves to not stand for leadership:lol:

Sounding a bit Trump esque, albeit you did well to avoid the phrase "fake media".

 

[FairwayDodger]

Sounding a bit Trump esque, albeit you did well to avoid the phrase "fake media".

Spot on! If it isn't positive news, Scottish nats and trump both blame the media.

 

[ColchesterFC]

The election was a classic example of putting the good of her party above that of the country.

She's not the first and I'm sure she won't be the last to do that though.

It could be argued that she was putting the wishes of the majority of the population first by trying to increase her majority to push through Brexit legislation. Or that she was simply trying to destroy Labour with such a crushing victory that Corbyn would have had to resign or the party could easily have split.

 

[FairwayDodger]

She's not the first and I'm sure she won't be the last to do that though.

It could be argued that she was putting the wishes of the majority of the population first by trying to increase her majority to push through Brexit legislation. Or that she was simply trying to destroy Labour with such a crushing victory that Corbyn would have had to resign or the party could easily have split.

You're right - David Cameron did it as well. She should have been carrying out the will of the majority by getting on with it, she had enough of a majority - I bet she yearns for it now.

 

[ColchesterFC]

You're right - David Cameron did it as well. She should have been carrying out the will of the majority by getting on with it, she had enough of a majority - I bet she yearns for it now.

As did many before them on both sides of the political divide.

 

[HughJars]

Still haven't seen anything about the crowd sizes coming out of those.

Re: your point about touring non-Tory seats, why would he? He's looked at the smallest majority seats, called them targets. OFTOMH the first "tory" target seat was something like number 90 in his list. That would be like the SNP only touring Welsh constituencies instead of the labour/tory/other seats in Scotoland.

He did indeed drop a big clanger though about the legal system, albeit it sounds like it was a passing comment and much ado about nothing. Sounds like the standard "if he isn't SNP, we don't like him tbh".

Au contraire, I'm a huge fan, just what England needs, he stole most of the existing SNP policies for his manifesto. However his "I'm in favour of self determination for everywhere in the world except Scotland" means he'll never get my vote unless I move back to England.

Crowd sizes - just look at the photos from the rear.

Seats - I suggest you look at the make up of Scottish seats and reassess his choices.

 

[HughJars]

Spot on! If it isn't positive news, Scottish nats and trump both blame the media.

you'll note the difference there, Trump is the President, Sturgeon never blames the media.

We, joe public, are allowed to get frustrated at the media in this country, as Americans do at Fox News and Breitbart, or are you saying you believe what the daily mail prints?

 

[FairwayDodger]

you'll note the difference there, Trump is the President, Sturgeon never blames the media.

We, joe public, are allowed to get frustrated at the media in this country, as Americans do at Fox News and Breitbart, or are you saying you believe what the daily mail prints?

Sturgeon is better than trump, I'll give you that much!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

No worries - we can all calm down - TM has declared from Japan that she has no intention of going anywhere.

I haven't a clue whether that is good or bad for anyone - never mind Corbyn.

 

[Hacker Khan]

No worries - we can all calm down - TM has declared from Japan that she has no intention of going anywhere.

I haven't a clue whether that is good or bad for anyone - never mind Corbyn.

I think it is very good for those that do not want the Tories to win at the next election.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think it is very good for those that do not want the Tories to win at the next election.

I have hesitated celebrating on these grounds because I don't think TM remaining for long will be good for the UK - especially if it triggers the Tories getting rid of her. The prospect of any combination of Johnson, Rees Mogg, and Leadsom in the three main roles of government is just a dreadful thought.

 

[MegaSteve]

I have strong no view on Juncker one way or another whatsoever - I have no idea why you think I think him so marvellous. I DO however believe he has significant influence within EU decision-making, and so not necessarily someone to take the P out of.

I put Juncker and Barnier right up there with Blair and Brown as absolutely not to be trusted...
They'll happily be telling a good line to your face and then go off and promptly stab you in the back..

Some folk in the UK would have Jacob Rees Mogg as PM!

Should he ever make No 10 I'd be digging out my hard hat, scarf and DM's...
I don't believe I'd struggle to find me a protest march to join...

 

[Hacker Khan]

I have hesitated celebrating on these grounds because I don't think TM remaining for long will be good for the UK - especially if it triggers the Tories getting rid of her. The prospect of any combination of Johnson, Rees Mogg, and Leadsom in the three main roles of government is just a dreadful thought.

Or the prospect of a younger Tory who can actually connect with the British public and who reigns in the hard Brexiters against Corbyn (who is doing himself no favours whatsoever on Brexit) could lead to big Tory gains. Tomato Tomayto...

 

[Hacker Khan]

I put Juncker and Barnier right up there with Blair and Brown as absolutely not to be trusted...
They'll happily be telling a good line to your face and then go off and promptly stab you in the back..



Should he ever make No 10 I'd be digging out my hard hat, scarf and DM's...
I don't believe I'd struggle to find me a protest march to join...

I will not call a snap election........

 

[Hacker Khan]

I put Juncker and Barnier right up there with Blair and Brown as absolutely not to be trusted...
They'll happily be telling a good line to your face and then go off and promptly stab you in the back..

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/polit...ess-theyre-right-wing-*******s-20170502126918

 

[HughJars]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/polit...ess-theyre-right-wing-*******s-20170502126918

Funny cos it's so true

 

[User62651]

Don't think the mass of Tory MPs will let her stay on indefinitely, her announcement of staying on must mean a leadership contest is coming sooner rather than later given her poor GE result and general ineptitude. She has no authority. Trouble is who would be better? William Hague (not an MP) would be my only choice of Tory (and just maybe Hammond at a push) so he'd need to win a by election to qualify.
May's PR people aren't training her right either, she's still making silly soundbites, repeating herself and doing her blinky eyes and nodding head mannerisms when talking to the media that convey a total lack of confidence imo.

 

[MegaSteve]

Or the prospect of a younger Tory who can actually connect with the British public and who reigns in the hard Brexiters against Corbyn (who is doing himself no favours whatsoever on Brexit) could lead to big Tory gains. Tomato Tomayto...

Resurrect DaveCam?

And, you are right about Jezza... He should have stuck to his beliefs...
His butt cheeks are now red raw from sitting on the fence..
Hugely disappointed with him...
A vote wasted...

 

[MegaSteve]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/polit...ess-theyre-right-wing-*******s-20170502126918

Oh dear...

Quite hilarious....

One of my biggest angsts is that the yurt living yogurt knitting Daily Mash reading members of my party have moved it away from the very people it should be representing... Putting them fully on ignore... Causing them to look to the right where they, very mistakenly, believe they find folk listening to and hearing them...


On a more positive point I did also learn why the good people of Feltham are chasing after bitcoins... Fools!