New scoring - MABLEFORD

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So we were discussing Stableford scoring around the Camberley dinner table....... and came up with Mableford as an alternative scoring system..... here's an explaination....

Golfer A: comes to a 400yrd par 4 where he has no shot.
He finds the edge of the rough from the tee, (shot 1) forces a 9-iron to within 50yds of the green, (shot 2) average chip onto the edge of the green, (shot 3) putts to 4ft (shot 4) and now faces having to hole the 4ft putt for 1 point else he gets NOTHING... he lips out and gets ZERO

Golfer B: comes to a 400yrd par 4 where he HAS A SHOT
He slices one into the trees and has to reload (shot 1&3) tops his 4-iron from the middle of the fairway leaving 120yds (shot 4) hits wedge into the bunker (shot 5) doesn't get out of the bunker (shot 6) knifes his next attept over the green (shot 7) chips on (shot 8) proceeds to 3-putt (shots 9, 10 and 11) He scores NO POINTS

How on earth are they the SAME, how can both of those examples be worth 0 points?

When it comes to the end of the round the guy who was knifing it and slicing it will be bragging to his mates how well he did, how his STABLEFORD score was so great... look at all his points... in fact he beat his 6 h/cap mate

This is where MABLEFORD steps in..... the scoring doesn't stop at zero, it actually goes to MINUS ONE

Player A would tap in and score 6 for ZERO points however Player B who got an 11 would score MINUS 1

As he was receiving a shot Player B could make a double bogie 6 and still get 1 point, he could make a triple and get away with zero points but surely anything over a triple should be penalised too? Can you literally blast it all over the course and still get rewarded the same as the guy who lipped a 4ft putt?



Open to discussion......................
 
No..... but I am now! :D

I made a 6 and blobbed the hole, I was facing a 20ft'er for a point...... I got ZERO, equal to whatever your score was, is that right?
 
JustOne, Thats surely the whole point of the Stableford scoring system, It gives everyone the same chance of scoring points, agree to a cetrain extent because it annoys the hell out of me, when I play off 11 and my BIL who plays off 18 scores more points and has a smug look on his face like " I beat you ", gets on my bloody nerves, give me a Medal any day !!!!
 
MINUS 1. Inspired!

get it done, I'll finance the deal.

Minus 1 for everything over "Nil Points"

(good for people like me too.....)
 
coolhand said:
To speed up play you could stipualte that the ball can be picked up as soon as you get to -1 but if you keep playing it every shot add to the -ve score.
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Hehe.... we did discuss it going to -2, -3 etc but that would slow down play and heads would go down if you scored -6 on the 1st hole :D So we decided -1 would suffice as a limit so yes you'd pick up when you can only make -1.
 
Surely the difference in scoring Golfer A and Golfer B on your method would be bettered by a small tweek to your rules and that would then be called Stroke Play. Then both players would get their just deserts!
 
I do like stablefore playing against another similar handicapped player, but when I am giving away too many shots it can be irritating, stroke play anyday for me
 
chrisd said:
Surely the difference in scoring Golfer A and Golfer B on your method would be bettered by a small tweek to your rules and that would then be called Stroke Play. Then both players would get their just deserts!
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Stroke play can be soul destroying for those prone to making a 10 on the 1st, it would be better to be on -1.

The point of Mableford is to level the scoring so when you're buddy tells you he got 32 points with 4 blobs it's not really that great when his 4 blobs were a 14, a 12 and two 10's.... (or rather 'did not finish', 'did not finish', 'did not finish', 'did not finish')

Mine however might be 4 blobs that are 6, 6, 6 and 5

If you are playing a hole where you get a shot then THAT should be your advantage on that hole... not that you can then try and swing out of your shoes, blast it into the trees, reload 4 times and charge your way down the hole to then score the same as your mate battling the hole as carefully as he could who faced a 20ft'er for a point
 
Sounds abit like the modified stableford scoring system which used to be used in pro tournaments on occasion.
In that you got a real premium for being under par but penalty for being over.
Albatross = +8
Eagle = +5
Birdie = +2
Par = 0
Bogey = -1
Double or worse = -3

This used to be used in the "International" on the PGA tour.

I like it as it encourages attacking play.
 
Yeh, I happen to think modified stableford is rubbish as you don't see many albatrosses/eagles EVER and sometimes birdies and pars are hard to come by no matter what h/cap you are. BLAND is the best way I can describe it... although I'm sure there are 10 people on the planet who enjoy it..... :mad:
 
I can see your point. On the face of it, it is a good idea. But as irritating as it is. Isn't the idea of stableford, to give everyone a chance. I hate stableford. For the reasons you have stated. Much prefer match/stroke play.

But when I hacked around worse than I do now(debatable). I loved stableford. As I felt I always had a chance.

How many would give up golf.Or stop playing comps, if they had little or no chance?
 
Would -1 represent having NO CHANCE?


I'm sure I can make several of them in a round :o

Doesn't their h/cap already give them the same chance as every other player?

Normally people that think they have NO CHANCE opt out of playing stroke play... and normally they are right :D
 
Stableford is a joke system, it's there for amateur hackers to feel good about being poor golfers, it serves no other purpose than to act as a pretence that we're better than we are

The irony being that stableford is pointless

Mableford is then a refined joke :)
 
Slab said:
The irony being that stableford is pointless

Mableford is then a refined joke :)
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I agree :) however I'd rather play something refined rather than the joke itself.

I don't see why when I'm playing my mate who is off a LOWER h/cap than me that he should get 0 when he gets an 8 and I get 0 for my 6, especially when I always seem to end up handing over my £10 to him :angry:

He's far more aggressive than me... that's his style of play because he knows that there's no real penalty if I'm already out of position on a hole... he can then 'go for the big one' so to speak.
 
That's the whole point of stableford is that you can hack your way round and score no worse than someone who has played the whole much better than you.

That's why I much prefer strokeplay - sure you can 'ruin' your round on the first hole, but it's much more rewarding when every hole and every stroke counts.
 
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