My Swing Speed Journey
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harpo_72
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I have looked at this table before, everything from 5 wood down I am in between the 100 and 106 bracket even when you shift the clubs for lofts.
So I am either leaving a shed load on the table with the driver or this is incorrect.
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
Thinking about this you could spin it this way if you look at course distances then handicap index could be rated.
The reason I say this is our yellow tee course rating is 67.4 vs white 68.8 and black is 69.4 .. which equates to a handicap reduction
Springveldt
Well-known member
Yes, it carries over to irons as well, I usually gain a club after doing speed training. I don't stick to this speed training religiously as to be honest I get my driver up to over 100 and I'm happy with that. For the last few years my driver clubhead speed falls below 100 during winter (usually down to about 95-97mph range) and then I'll get the speed sticks out and do a 5 or 6 weeks sessions with them (3 times a week) and it takes it back up to about 102mph.
Last year I added in a stretching routine daily and also used resistance bands about 2 or 3 times a week and I saw that jump to about 106mph. It seems this year I haven't lost as much speed as usual over winter as I'm pretty sure if I got back on Trackman this week I'd already be at around 102mph based on my Superspeed readings and it's only my 2nd session. I often think about trying to push on and break through the first plateau to see if I could get a second jump into the 110mph range but I'm just not committed enough for it. Maybe this year is the year I try it.
This is the chart that they provided a few years ago. As you can see my readings yesterday (120, 118, 113) put me just over 100mph but my final 3 swings with the green were 127,130,128 so I would expect my next session or 2 to push me back up closer to the 105mph range.
| Current Driver Speed | Green Club | Blue Club | Red Club |
| 70 | 84 | 81 | 79 |
| 75 | 89 | 86 | 75 |
| 80 | 95 | 92 | 89 |
| 85 | 101 | 98 | 92 |
| 90 | 107 | 103 | 100 |
| 95 | 113 | 109 | 106 |
| 100 | 119 | 115 | 112 |
| 105 | 125 | 121 | 117 |
| 110 | 131 | 127 | 123 |
| 115 | 137 | 132 | 129 |
| 120 | 143 | 138 | 134 |
I remember seeing Jon Rahm doing the sticks with the same radar I use and his green stick was 144, so it kinda validates this chart.
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Springveldt
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I'm struggling to see the Y axis on this image, even when zoomed in but I think I would be a smidge above the line for my handicap? Looks like a 5 handicap is around 100mph?
Currently a 5.5 index but the thing that lets me down is that I have 1 or 2 really bad swings per round that cost me shots and my putting from 8 foot and in is poor for my handicap range. I really need to make some more putts in that range.
When I come off the course feeling like I've had a great day putting Shot Scope normally has me around my handicap range or maybe 1 shot better. What feels like an average putting day has me lose about 1.5-2 shots and a poor day has me losing 3 or even 4 shots.
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Springveldt
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This chart marries up nearly exactly to my distances in my experience when swinging at 100 or 106. I've got stronger lofted irons that this chart probably has but my delivery numbers will not be as good as these as I present quite a bit of dynamic loft at impact with my irons, it's something I've always struggled with. So having slightly stronger static lofts actually helps me.
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We all have the couple of bad shots, and have weaker aspects. But it seems these even out, and distance is the prime dominant factor.
Thanks. So you are about correct to the graph. 100mph is a 6HI.
We all have the couple of bad shots, and have weaker aspects. But it seems these even out, and distance is the prime dominant factor.
DeanoMK
Club Champion
I was in Turkey last week, my last gym session before I left something in my ribs went 'pop'. Been struggling since, think it's just bruising, thankfully.
Done two sessions since, Sunday was a normal session, averaged 112.
Today, first session on Level 4 and I hit 115mph on three of my baseline swings and averaged out at 114, my new PB. Considering that's with an injury, I am buzzing!
Done two sessions since, Sunday was a normal session, averaged 112.
Today, first session on Level 4 and I hit 115mph on three of my baseline swings and averaged out at 114, my new PB. Considering that's with an injury, I am buzzing!
bobmac
Major Champion
Please be careful swinging that hard with an injuryI was in Turkey last week, my last gym session before I left something in my ribs went 'pop'. Been struggling since, think it's just bruising, thankfully.
Done two sessions since, Sunday was a normal session, averaged 112.
Today, first session on Level 4 and I hit 115mph on three of my baseline swings and averaged out at 114, my new PB. Considering that's with an injury, I am buzzing!
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
What is your carry distance now? With that 115I was in Turkey last week, my last gym session before I left something in my ribs went 'pop'. Been struggling since, think it's just bruising, thankfully.
Done two sessions since, Sunday was a normal session, averaged 112.
Today, first session on Level 4 and I hit 115mph on three of my baseline swings and averaged out at 114, my new PB. Considering that's with an injury, I am buzzing!
DeanoMK
Club Champion
Yeah, you're 100% spot on with this. I think I'll have to take a couple of weeks off but super happy with my progress so far.
The app is quoting it as 274 carry!
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
I’m not 100% sure because I don’t honestly know.
Going on our longest drive competition in the summer,albeit not on the best launch monitor,I drove it 268 off a 99mph swing speed.
I suspect in the summer you will be up near 300 carry.
DeanoMK
Club Champion
That would be absolutely lovely
cunnini
Member
just back from the range and session 18 of 18 in my first set of The Stack. I always post session hit 6-10 drivers (with range balls), and i log the data. So today first time i had only one below 100mph club speed, and average over the 18 sessions has gone from 96.8 to 102 (I average having discounted single lowest and single highest in case of any spurious data reads).
Friday i'll redo baseline and see how it looks - overall very happy!
Friday i'll redo baseline and see how it looks - overall very happy!
Springveldt
Well-known member
300 yard carry will require 180mph ball speed, so clubhead speed 120+mph. Not many can do that. Getting 300 with roll out in the summer is possible even for people with much slower swing speeds.
268 total should be possible with 99mph swing speed, 268 carry would mean the launch monitor was broken.
Have hit a LOT of 99-100 chs, usually comes to about 235-240 carry.300 yard carry will require 180mph ball speed, so clubhead speed 120+mph. Not many can do that. Getting 300 with roll out in the summer is possible even for people with much slower swing speeds.
268 total should be possible with 99mph swing speed, 268 carry would mean the launch monitor was broken.
Total then all depends on conditions. 260 impossibly carry with 100mph chs.
I’ve hit many 300 yd drives and I’m nowhere near 120.300 yard carry will require 180mph ball speed, so clubhead speed 120+mph. Not many can do that. Getting 300 with roll out in the summer is possible even for people with much slower swing speeds.
268 total should be possible with 99mph swing speed, 268 carry would mean the launch monitor was broken.
Unless you mean carry?
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
Use the 1.7 factor .. to get 300yards carry you need 176mph + ball speed.
Then to deliver 176mph ball speed you need to think efficiency .. 1.45 means 121mph club speed, 1.5 means 117mph.
The 1.7 factor is known from an efficiency value .. so you can go fast but you have to deliver the head correctly.
The big heads and forgiveness does help massively.
On that note I would change the rule on the COR (for geeky interest) so make a spot of 5mm x 5mm 1.00 instead of the 0.83 and the rest of the face 0.7 .. I wonder how that would play out?
Then to deliver 176mph ball speed you need to think efficiency .. 1.45 means 121mph club speed, 1.5 means 117mph.
The 1.7 factor is known from an efficiency value .. so you can go fast but you have to deliver the head correctly.
The big heads and forgiveness does help massively.
On that note I would change the rule on the COR (for geeky interest) so make a spot of 5mm x 5mm 1.00 instead of the 0.83 and the rest of the face 0.7 .. I wonder how that would play out?
DeanoMK
Club Champion
Went to the range earlier, end of the session I was hitting driver and got some good readings, the last two I used premium balls and the jump in carry was very encouraging and alarming that the range balls are that different!
Springveldt
Well-known member
Yes. It did start “300 yard carry”.
