Ethan
Money List Winner
Brian Barnes.
But he was far from the only critic at the time.
But he was far from the only critic at the time.
Most overrated golf course?
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Deke
Journeyman Pro
Wow,Mr Barnes in the 1968 French Open,took 15 shots on a par 3! But he also beat Jack Nicholas twice in one day during the 1975 Ryder cup. Wikipediatastic!
richart
Major Champion
Another that thinks Wentworth West is overrated. Played it the autumn and just found it a long slog, especially the back nine. The other two courses there are underrated though, and much more to my liking.
Burnham and Berrow is a nice course, which was unfortunately flooded when we played it. It is overrated in that it is ranked ahead of Saunton East in the GM rankings.
Must admit I think Royal North Devon is overrated. Apologies to Mike, but it was in poor condition both times I played it, and apart from 5 holes at the end of the front nine, which are very good, is not really a links course. Too much muck on the couse from all the sheep, horses etc for my liking. The clubhouse may be the oldest in England, but it is not a cheery place, and some of the members we met were very unfriendly.
Burnham and Berrow is a nice course, which was unfortunately flooded when we played it. It is overrated in that it is ranked ahead of Saunton East in the GM rankings.
Must admit I think Royal North Devon is overrated. Apologies to Mike, but it was in poor condition both times I played it, and apart from 5 holes at the end of the front nine, which are very good, is not really a links course. Too much muck on the couse from all the sheep, horses etc for my liking. The clubhouse may be the oldest in England, but it is not a cheery place, and some of the members we met were very unfriendly.
mcbroon
Journeyman Pro
Dalmahoy.
I don't know if it's really well-regarded but before I played it, I was given to believe it was a bit special.
Maybe it was the 5hr 45mins that killed it for me.
I don't know if it's really well-regarded but before I played it, I was given to believe it was a bit special.
Maybe it was the 5hr 45mins that killed it for me.
Deke
Journeyman Pro
mykweb
Assistant Pro
Is that the west or east course?
I have some 2 for 1 vouchers for the dalmahoy.
ive not really played many top notch clubs as I never have the cash, but out of the ones I have played the Torrance in St. Andrews is the best
GB72
Money List Winner
Not played many renowned courses so have a limited personal reference. The only one near me that has been built up to be something special has been Stapleford Park and that disappointed me. Just was a bit of a long slog and, whilst it is out in the country, it is surrounded by pretty bland fields that are not much to look at and adds to the air of repetition. Far preferred the views from Rutland Water or Stoke Rochford which have nowhere near the reputation. Both are more fun to play as well. Luckily when I do play at Stapleford Park it tends to be at an event so has never cost me more than £20.00 and I would not want to pay much more than that for it.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
Yes, I was very underwhelmed first time I played it; thought it was OK but nothing special and certainly not what it had been cracked up to be.
scratch
Q-School Graduate
Absolutely agree with this, never understood why Trevose is always in the top 100. Not a bad track but certainly not a great one.
DCB
Well-known member
I'd partly go along with thecraw and say Troon Lochgreen. Play through there quite regularly as I've got inlaws through there. It's not been in the best of nick for a fair while now. Far prefer its wee brother The Darley. Must be more than 15 years since Lochgreen was a 'good' course as it's living on its reputation nowadays.
I'd add Dalmahoy East to the list as well. Not in good nick and the changes 6-7 years back did nothing for the course at all.
I'd add Dalmahoy East to the list as well. Not in good nick and the changes 6-7 years back did nothing for the course at all.
PPE
Head Pro
The Belfry - Brabazon.
Take out the 10th and 18th and just a very ordinary course IMO.
Take out the 10th and 18th and just a very ordinary course IMO.
mcbroon
Journeyman Pro
It was the East course. Haven't played the West.
PNWokingham
Journeyman Pro
Another vote for the West Course. This is a very nice golf course no doubt and the whole experience at Wentworth is very exciting, at least the first time. I haven't played it since the latest changes but unlike many others I think they may have improved it, in general. For instance the run of area around the ninth looks very nice when I gaze upon it from the train - and I like big bunkers. This was no classic sacred-cow of a Harry Colt before the changes. I think the first is a great hole but have no real love for 2-6 (5 and 6 are very bland). The run from 7-13 is a great set of holes - although I don't like the 2 trees you drive through on the par 5 12th. The run for home is not great - but I like the look of the changes to 17. Overall, as mentioned, a nice course but if I had to choose it or nearly any of the other heathlands in the area, I would not choose the West. The East is a much nicer layout on the best ground on the property - and it is much more a heathland course - although it is a little scruffy and desperately needs an architectural overhaul especially the bunkers. The only other course that comes to mind is Walton Heath - as with the West, it is a very nice course but feel it should be in the 60-90 rank not top 30 - I din't like the first, from where you then cross the road for the other 35 holes, the noise from the M25 and the feeling that holes are too on top of each other - sometimes there are several tees and greens very close to each other - and no way is it better than Hankley Common (a similar expansive heathland track) - although the gap in the rankings has closed a lot over the last few years.
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Royal West Norfolk was a disappointment.
chrisd
Major Champion
I found the West Course at Wentworth much more memorable than the New Course at Sunningdale. That's probably because I had seen and walked the West so many times. It's the cost that tends to be the deciding factor as its clearly not great value for money but the Belfry can be had on a deal quite cheaply but would I drive up from Kent to play it again - yes, if the company was good, would I pllay the West Course again - you bet I would!
MashieNiblick
Tour Winner
Ok we definitely need to settle the argument over Wentworth's West Course.
So here's the solution.
GM book three 4-balls for 12 lucky forum members who have never played there to play it.12 because if that's how many you need to decide whether someone is guilty or innocent in a court, it should be enough to decide whether a golf course is overrated.
Majority opinion rules.
Brilliant piece for the magazine.
As it's my idea it's only fair that the 12 would be me plus 11 others.
So here's the solution.
GM book three 4-balls for 12 lucky forum members who have never played there to play it.12 because if that's how many you need to decide whether someone is guilty or innocent in a court, it should be enough to decide whether a golf course is overrated.
Majority opinion rules.
Brilliant piece for the magazine.
As it's my idea it's only fair that the 12 would be me plus 11 others.
Of the (supposed) top courses I've played, the only one I would not revisit, even on a freebie, is the PGA @ the Belfry. At best it would make a decent practice ground.
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Ok we definitely need to settle the argument over Wentworth's West Course.
So here's the solution.
GM book three 4-balls for 12 lucky forum members who have never played there to play it.12 because if that's how many you need to decide whether someone is guilty or innocent in a court, it should be enough to decide whether a golf course is overrated.
Majority opinion rules.
Brilliant piece for the magazine.
As it's my idea it's only fair that the 12 would be me plus 11 others.
What a coincidence - I had the same idea. So that's you and I and 10 others!!!
Robobum
Money List Winner
Not sure whether it is held in any regard any more, but the once European Tour stop @ St Pierre is a dump.
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