Deke
Journeyman Pro
Some good posts so far,keep em coming!
The West Course at Wentworth.
Costs an arm & a leg, has NO memorable holes, just a slog. Oh and as a visitor you are about as welcome as an unpleasant smell in a space-suit.
Admitedly, i have never paid to play here (and am very lucky about that) and maybe that changes my opinion, but how anyone can say there are no memorable holes is clearly a little loopy.
The 1st is a fantastic opening (and gentle as a par 5), the 2nd is great par 3. and i can go on and on. 7 is a brilliant par 4, as is 8 and 9.
In fact i genuinely believe every single hole can be classed as memorable, with only maybe 16 the exception!
In terms of visitors being welcomed, you must have caught them on a bad day, as i have always been treated like royalty. 'Morning Sir' at every single part of the club!
Obviously this is all about opinion, and i fully accept it, but i felt the need to argue its case.
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The West Course at Wentworth.
Costs an arm & a leg, has NO memorable holes, just a slog. Oh and as a visitor you are about as welcome as an unpleasant smell in a space-suit.
Ethan summed it up, perhaps unintentionally, the West Course is "basically a decent Surrey heathland course."
Certainly not a great one and compares very unfavourably with some of its less gauche neighbours.
The comments regarding buying the Ryder Cup might equally apply to the BMW PGA Championship.
Perhaps, but Wentworth has some heavy duty neighbours against which to compare - Sunningdale, Berkshire, Royal Ascot (TFIC). You won't hear me argue it is as good a course as either Sunningdale, but it is still a very good course. The 1st, 2nd, 7th, 8th, 9th, and most of the back 9 are very good holes indeed.
Wentworth West is in an utterly different league to The Brabazon, in my opinion.
The other 2 courses at Wentworth are also pretty good. The Edinburgh course is rather Woburnish.
Who was comparing the West Course with the Brabazon.
Who was comparing the West Course with the Brabazon. The latter is merely a decent enough course given the patch of land that the architects were given to work with.
It has never enjoyed a great reputation and nor should it expect to.
The West Course has, for years, been the beneficiary of a very successful PR campaign and the recent changes were, in my opinion, the final nail in the coffin.
The East Course is, I would suggest, a better, more varied test for the amateur golfer.
You were, only slightly indirectly, or as you might prefer, unintentionally.
You said a few posts before that comments about the Ryder Cup might equally apply to the BMW PGA. Not equally unless the courses were 'equal'. They really aren't.
Interpretation & semantics! I have no axe to grind for the Brabazon or The Belfry but I might question whether others are equally open-minded.
They could be equally held guilty of buying events that could be staged on superior courses and their comparative rankings do not alter this.
The opinion of the player who was so dismissive has since been shown to be of questionable merit!