Matsuyama Disqualified

[Tashyboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/61678484

bottom line his club face was tamperered with, it says you can have a small “ sharpie” mark on the face to help with alignment but his was a substance all over the club face and grooves etc.
Where exactly is the line crossed when it comes to altering a club that it becomes illegal.
Very suprised a player of his calibre would need anything like this or in fact his club supplier did something illegal.

 

[Deleted member 3432]

There was a picture oh his WITB on GolfWRX.

DQ for was this was ridiculous, its cosmetic and nothing else. Golf does itself no favours with stupid rules like this.

 

[Tashyboy]

There was a picture oh his WITB on GolfWRX.

DQ for was this was ridiculous, its cosmetic and nothing else. Golf does itself no favours with stupid rules like this.

would like to see a picture of his club face.

 

[Slab]

would like to see a picture of his club face.

Paint etc in the groove = OK
Paint on face = not OK

(I'm not saying the material is actually paint but whatever it was i.e tippex etc its not ok for the substance to be on a surface that could come into contact with the ball)

 

[Ross61]

When I first saw the picture a I thought it was just the centre, but you can make out that it is also around the edge of the face.

 

[Tashyboy]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...s-three-wood&usg=AOvVaw25UaRyABasQWmuoAM8i5uj

just seen this. What I don’t understand. It looks like it was done by a primary school kid. If it was sprayed on like the normal black coating on the face would that be illegal.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

https://www.golfmagic.com/pga-tour/hideki-matsuyama-disqualified-memorial-after-marks-his-3-wood?amp

Also here. Very surprised that this could happen. Surely everyone on his team should know not to mess like this on the course. On the practice area, yes, but on the course

 

[Lord Tyrion]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiF1eyX3pD4AhXTQUEAHXSLA54QvOMEKAB6BAgDEAE&url=https://www.skysports.com/golf/news/12176/12626577/hideki-matsuyama-disqualified-from-memorial-tournament-for-markings-on-his-three-wood&usg=AOvVaw25UaRyABasQWmuoAM8i5uj

just seen this. What I don’t understand. It looks like it was done by a primary school kid. If it was sprayed on like the normal black coating on the face would that be illegal.

If it was black on black then no one would know it was there. Equally, would the golfer be able to see it? No use as an aid if you can't see it ?‍

 

[BrianM]

What feedback was it giving him on the practise ground?
I've just noticed I've got 4 white sticker dots on my driver from a lesson last week, would that be a disqualification in a competition?

 

[moogie]

What feedback was it giving him on the practise ground?
I've just noticed I've got 4 white sticker dots on my driver from a lesson last week, would that be a disqualification in a competition?

Yes

https://golf-com.cdn.ampproject.org...arre-rules-violation-could-have-been-avoided/

 

[Beezerk]

On a slight tangent, yesterday a lad in the society claimed someone’s putter was illegal as he’d put a black alignment line on the top of it ?

 

[rulefan]

What feedback was it giving him on the practise ground?
I've just noticed I've got 4 white sticker dots on my driver from a lesson last week, would that be a disqualification in a competition?

Yes

https://golfproductsreview.com/the-...t-dqd-rory-sabbatini-heres-why-pros-use-them/

 

[need_my_wedge]

What feedback was it giving him on the practise ground?
I've just noticed I've got 4 white sticker dots on my driver from a lesson last week, would that be a disqualification in a competition?

I believe that makes your club non conforming and you would be disqualified if it was seen and reported.

I always remove them from my irons before a comp, just in case.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

On a slight tangent, yesterday a lad in the society claimed someone’s putter was illegal as he’d put a black alignment line on the top of it ?

Did you put him right or just sit back and enjoy events unfold?

 

[Tashyboy]

On a slight tangent, yesterday a lad in the society claimed someone’s putter was illegal as he’d put a black alignment line on the top of it ?

This is the it I don’t understand. Taylormade do putters by the million with Factory painted lines. The PGA guy says a small sharpie line is ok. But Matsuyamas was over the top. I wonder where the line should be drawn ( pardon the pun) where it becomes illegal.

 

[Mel Smooth]

Can you be dq’d for applying dirt to the face of the club?

 

[rulefan]

This is the it I don’t understand. Taylormade do putters by the million with Factory painted lines. The PGA guy says a small sharpie line is ok. But Matsuyamas was over the top. I wonder where the line should be drawn ( pardon the pun) where it becomes illegal.

The sticker dots were on the face. The black mark was on the top

 

[clubchamp98]

And yet you can add a sharpie line to a ball and draw all sorts of weird marks ,but not put it on the clubface.
That looks like my three year old grandson has done it.
Putting things on the clubface is a basic no no .
All golfers should know that.

 

[timd77]

Am I right in thinking that grooves increase spin, and therefore painting in the grooves reduces spin thus increasing distance? Either he’s very stupid, or hoping to get away with something, which would surprise me.

 

[clubchamp98]

Am I right in thinking that grooves increase spin, and therefore painting in the grooves reduces spin thus increasing distance? Either he’s very stupid, or hoping to get away with something, which would surprise me.

You are correct.
But you do need some spin to get the ball airborne.
Imo he’s done that as an alignment aid rather than a spin or performance thing.
Stupid boy, given the equipment avaliable to them just get a professional who knows what he’s doing to do it in the tour van.