Matchplay Competition Rules

[Imurg]

But if they are allowed to choose a means of deciding the tie, it's ludicrous to dq both because they chose a method that actually involves the game you're playing..

How to decide a golff match..
Snail race Vs golf...
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[Duckster]

Related to this thread, I'd like to ask people's opinions on this scenario:

Last year there was a foursomes knockout. In one round, due to various holidays, illnesses, etc, members of boths pairs couldn't make it by the due date. It was therefore up to the pairs to choose a way to send one them through. Pretty much anything would have been acceptable: toss of a coin, game of darts, outcome of a footie match, etc.

As it happens, one of each pair was available on the due date, so they decided to have a singles match - an actual game of golf - to decide the outcome. Both pairs were happy with this. But after the fact, others in the competition heard about it and objected. The result was that both pairs were DQ'd.

Now to my mind, choosing to play a singles match to decide the winner seems eminently reasonable, but the objectors seemed to think it was pretty much the one thing they shouldn't be allowed to do, and the committee sided with them. ("It's a pairs competition, you can't play singles"). Seems bonkers to me when if, say, they'd had a raindrops on the window race that would have been deemed OK. What are other people's thoughts on this?

(PS. I was not involved at all in this - my pair had already been knocked out in an earlier round).

About 3 years ago, the final of the Shaw Hill pairs matchplay was played between a pair and a single guy (his partner had booked to go on holiday, not expecting the reach the final). Finals day is a set date and the rules didn't allow for any subs. So the guy played on his own.

He won.

There was no issue at all with him playing on his own though.

 

[duncan mackie]

About 3 years ago, the final of the Shaw Hill pairs matchplay was played between a pair and a single guy (his partner had booked to go on holiday, not expecting the reach the final). Finals day is a set date and the rules didn't allow for any subs. So the guy played on his own.

He won.

There was no issue at all with him playing on his own though.

There shouldn't have been - the rules specifically permit it.

 

[cliveb]

About 3 years ago, the final of the Shaw Hill pairs matchplay was played between a pair and a single guy (his partner had booked to go on holiday, not expecting the reach the final). Finals day is a set date and the rules didn't allow for any subs. So the guy played on his own.

He won.

There was no issue at all with him playing on his own though.

My guess is that it was probably a fourball better ball pairs event - in which case of course someone is allowed to play on their own.

The incident at my club was a foursomes pairs comp - alternate shots format.

 

[JollyRedDevil]

Can you play a singles match play over 2 days? 1st 9 one one evening and 2nd 9 on another?

 

[NorwichBanana]

Can you play a singles match play over 2 days? 1st 9 one one evening and 2nd 9 on another?

I cant see why not, if you both agree to it.

I played a chap a couple of years ago, we were a 4.5 hour 2 ball (yeah OUCH!).....It was dark by the time I finally Pared the 18th to make it all square! So I offered him 2 choices, we either play the 1st on another day as a sudden death, or we can play the front 9 and the winner is decided then....he accepted the play the front 9, I beat him on the 8th 3&1. We were both happy with the outcome of it.

I have known people toss a coin over a pint before......not sure Id be willing to do that!!!

 

[thesheriff]

The Competitor who is (first named given in the draw) will have the choice of venue. The
responsibility of arranging the tie lies with both players and a choice of two dates must be given,
both of which must be at least four days apart and one must be a weekend date, and must not be
in the same week. Contact between the players should be made using the “contact tab” on the
competition page on the Lothians Golf Association website.
5. If a ruling on local rules is required the players concerned are asked to consult the Secretary or a
Committee Member of the Club at which the tie is being played. Any other dispute must be referred to
the Tournament Committee of the Lothians Golf Association whose decision shall be final. Local rules
which are in force will be observed by players.
6. Should a player, for any reason, be unable to carry through a tie within the stipulated period, then he
must scratch and award the tie to his opponent, giving notice to his opponent and the Tournament
Secretary of the Lothians Golf Association that he is doing so. No extensions will be allowed.

Rules for my current matchplay comp, similar to Crazyface's. Bottom line for me it you can't/won't play your tie even when given a suitable number of opportunities, you're out. Don't like it? Tough tatties.

 

[jim8flog]

I cant see why not, if you both agree to it.

I played a chap a couple of years ago, we were a 4.5 hour 2 ball (yeah OUCH!).....It was dark by the time I finally Pared the 18th to make it all square! So I offered him 2 choices, we either play the 1st on another day as a sudden death, or we can play the front 9 and the winner is decided then....he accepted the play the front 9, I beat him on the 8th 3&1. We were both happy with the outcome of it.

I have known people toss a coin over a pint before......not sure Id be willing to do that!!!

We play by the rules laid down in our competition handbook ie Sudden death, even if that has to happen on another day.

 

[jim8flog]

Can you play a singles match play over 2 days? 1st 9 one one evening and 2nd 9 on another?

Rule 6.8
Exception in match play: Players discontinuing match play by agreement are not subject to disqualification, unless by so doing the competition is delayed.

d. Procedure When Play Resumed Play must be resumed from where it was discontinued, even if resumption occurs on a subsequent day. The player must, either before or when play is resumed, proceed as follows:

However if you agree to this before commencing the round it might be construed as an agreement to waive the rules so I would ask for permission to do so from your committee.

 

[fmortey]

We have a situation at our club that I would like to hear opinions on:
Club Mixed match play competition that runs in brackets. A semi finalist was not able to play for medical reasons and is out for the remainder on the season. His partner asked to substitute a player of similar handicap to compete. Should this be allowed?
The other semifinalists don’t think it should be.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

We have a situation at our club that I would like to hear opinions on:
Club Mixed match play competition that runs in brackets. A semi finalist was not able to play for medical reasons and is out for the remainder on the season. His partner asked to substitute a player of similar handicap to compete. Should this be allowed?
The other semifinalists don’t think it should be.

Absolutely not. It’s been entered as one team.
If it is 4BBB, then obviously the player on his own can still play.

 

[doublebogey7]

We have a situation at our club that I would like to hear opinions on:
Club Mixed match play competition that runs in brackets. A semi finalist was not able to play for medical reasons and is out for the remainder on the season. His partner asked to substitute a player of similar handicap to compete. Should this be allowed?
The other semifinalists don’t think it should be.

Only if the Terms of Competition specifically allow for substitutions in such circumstances.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Hi all,

This is to gauge the opinion and experience of all club members re the mathcplay competitions at their club.

We have had issues with members organising games, with some using the current rules to their advantage, resulting in them receiving a bye to the next round without hitting a ball.
Indeed, we had a scenario last year where one member only played two matches to lift a trophy at finals day.


What rules do you have in place to ensure that all competitors make an effort to have ties played?

We have a deadline and if the tie isn't played by then both are DQ'd. If people are unavailable for illness or holiday they need to contact the captain and handicap secretary and they will get a 7 day extension. Both sides must offer 3 dates and times