Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
That is a pretty poor reply.......where is the bitterness/sourness in that post [only in your head it seems].
Matchplay against women!
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That is a pretty poor reply.......where is the bitterness/sourness in that post [only in your head it seems].
Robster59
Tour Rookie
We played in our Gents v Ladies the other week. Four teams of four ball better balls. My playing partner and I were off 11, the ladies off 30 & 33. After 5 holes we were 3 down, managed to level it by 9 and then it was tight for the back 9. After 16 we were 1 Up and the ladies tee on the 17th is 150 yards shorter and on the last, all the ladies get an extra shot irrespective of handicap so a tough two closing holes for the gents. In the end we managed to win the 17th to win 2&1, the next two games were tied and the last hole the Ladies won 2 Up so the event was tied but the Ladies retained the trophy as the holders.
It was a tough but very enjoyable game and the closeness of the scores indicated that the handicap system pretty much got it right.
It was a tough but very enjoyable game and the closeness of the scores indicated that the handicap system pretty much got it right.
But why the 'adjustment' shots? 90% handicap allowance in 4BBB matches seems to work pretty well without them!
What part of his description of the match above didn't work well?
the only bit I can see that you could have a problem with is that the women won...
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
I should add that my record in Senior's matches, where I am usually the lowest handicapper, is pretty 50:50. Would us men get 2 adjustment shots if we played off the Ladies stroke indexes?
Your handicap is based on your sss, women's handicaps are based on their sss.
To play to handicap your have to score 12 over your sss.
To play to handicap, the woman has to score 30 over her sss.
If the women's sss is 2 shots more than the men's sss, then without the adjustment you win by 2.
It isn't difficult.
Robster59
Tour Rookie
Because it's a friendly, the rules have been there since before I played in them and I personally would feel a bit of a cad to ask to remove it.
So women play a shorter course with a higher SSS then? I thought there were plans afoot to just have one SSS for each tee.
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I remember playing against a lady county player a few years back and giving her an extra two shots.
Great game and also good fun. Managed to win but would not have been bothered in the slightest if I had lost.
If you are not happy with the handicap system then just play scratch events then its the same for everyone.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
To part 1, yes. (Not always, but in your case, and mine it's true).
Part 2, no. There are plans afaik to have all tees rated for SSS for both men and women.
You couldn't have one SSS for each tee and expect men and women to play off it. It will be different depending on the case, but I'd hazard a guess that from our red tees the scratch for men would be around 68 (73 for women) and the white tees for women would be around 78 (72 for men).
And people think I'm an idiot!
Robster59
Tour Rookie
One doesn't necessarily rule out the other
Just saying' like!
RW1986
Head Pro
What an attack from LiverpoolPhil that's what this forum is all about :thup:
Crow
Crow Person
So they played better than you on the day ? Tough tittie.
Other than for historical reasons, I don't really see why women have to have a separate handicapping system. Can't they just be regarded as golfers who on average don't hit the ball as far as elite men? The same applies to many senior male golfers, who don't have a separate system.
Hosel Fade
Tour Rookie
Because they are playing a different golf course, which happens to be harder than your so hard as nails white tees with the obvious lesser distance the ladies hit the ball.
I know several lady golfers who can hit the ball further than I can, as a 70 year old Senior male golfer. The 19 handicap lady I played against yesterday hit the ball almost as far as me, and I should add that I am far from being the shortest hitting Senior male in our club. 😀
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Crazyface
Tour Winner
I read your original post three times to see if I could detect a bit of humor in there but couldn't. It was a bit harsh to say the least LP!
Capella
Journeyman Pro
Well, come to Germany. Here the 3/4 rule still stands. But then again, our handicaps go up to 54, for both men and women. Plus slope index might grant them shots on top of that. Have fun playing with someone who might have three shots on you on a hole!:ears:
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I know you know this but handicaps aren't based on how far you can hit the ball
