Massacre at French Magazine Office - in Centre of Paris
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JCW
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The police officer they killed was in fact a muslim , this is nothink to do with Islam , its more then that and as for freedom of the press , well you can print what you like and if it offends then you get action like this .............these guys are well known and have form , its scary , where will it strike next ?
SocketRocket
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Do you think they knew he was a Muslim? I think the fact they were chanting 'Allah Akbar' indicates it was something to do with Islam in their twisted view.
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Unfortunately not. Most are not that brave
palindromicbob
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Ask those in the Middle East what they thought during the Crusades. The problem is humanity hasn't really moved on.
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More harrowing situations today but looks like a resolution (of sorts) now. Sadly their deaths will be glorified by their followers and more will sign up to the "cause"
palindromicbob
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Have you ever read George Orwell's Animal Farm?
Foxholer
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Probably drove Boxer to 'the Vets'!
Or a would-be Squealer!I relate more to Benjamin!
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Do you know what that means , this is all down to the west and human rights and all that , we allowed hate preachers to speak and spread their bile and even gave them money through benefits and police protected them as they had a right to speak , this soft policy has lead to these hate groups , too late now as they are up and running . This is not Islam , they are muslims yes but thats it
Foxholer
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JCW
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It would be better if it had been spelt correctly!
Minor detail , who cares , sorry , you do because I dont .
palindromicbob
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I fear we might see a similar attack in Germany soon after their recent protests.
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Foxholer
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It does, however, demonstrate the, quite common, 'lack of knowledge' of some/many critics!
See post #15! Which I also meant to mention re P'Bob's Animal Farm reference.
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Once again we seem to know quite a lot about these brothers, where they've been as far as training camps, who they met in jails, where they travelled to and from, visited mosques even here in the UK and probably a lot more, and yet we still cannot prevent the heinous crimes they commit! They were on no fly lists for the USA and UK but still able to move around elsewhere quite freely!
With the technology we have available to us and the pinpoint armour we can deploy, surely we should be able to wipe out these training camps, I know they move about but not that quickly that people from countries across Europe are radicalised [brainwashed] and make their way to them, so by the same token, if many of these individuals that commit these murders are/were on watch lists, we should be able to track them better and wipe out these camps along with as many of the preachers, trainers and other higher profile terrorists that would be there, or is that too easy, or god forbid, is that too unethical, personally I think its time to take the gloves off!
We always seem to know a lot more about all these individuals but its always released after the event!
With the technology we have available to us and the pinpoint armour we can deploy, surely we should be able to wipe out these training camps, I know they move about but not that quickly that people from countries across Europe are radicalised [brainwashed] and make their way to them, so by the same token, if many of these individuals that commit these murders are/were on watch lists, we should be able to track them better and wipe out these camps along with as many of the preachers, trainers and other higher profile terrorists that would be there, or is that too easy, or god forbid, is that too unethical, personally I think its time to take the gloves off!
We always seem to know a lot more about all these individuals but its always released after the event!
Old Skier
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Large parts of the western world get upset when people are chucked in clink without any proof of breaking any laws.
Not an issue across the pond and in the 3rd world. Depends what kind of society you want to live in.
MegaSteve
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An attitude that may have to change sooner rather than later...
I'm not sure how to read or take this, are you saying that we couldn't have done any more, and monitoring them was sufficient in your opinion, whilst we all just wait for them to strike taking out innocent lives!
Also, one of the brothers was in jail, why did we put him a cell or even the same wing with other known radicals where they would engage with each other, surely every effort should be made to keep these people apart.
Secondly, it was also known he had travelled to Yemen and then onto a training camp, that for me is belonging to a terrorist organisation, which when I last looked, was illegal! If indeed everyone in that training camp are wannabe terrorists, then flatten it with them all in for me!
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What if they're not all terrorists? What if there are kids there?
It's really tough, what I really dislike (apart from the obvious) is the way these incidents are high jacked for political means. The far right jump onto it as it fits their agenda, and government agencies use them as a mechanism to seek further funding and more intrusive powers. I'm all for analysing what we can learn but responding to terrorism by giving up our liberties seems a paradox to me.
That said, British citizens who go abroad to fight or train can't be allowed back without due process, and some can't be allowed back at all.
