marking the card question

[spudgun007]

its me again with the questions I hope someone out there can answer
2 players in a buggy claiming they only have one pencil between them. one of the two players fill in the stroke play scores for both for the both of them.
are they at fault and does anybody know were this rule is in the R & A rule book


yours in sport

Mike

 

[USER1999]

You can't fill in your own card, so the one who fills in his own card is dq'd. Also, you can't agree to waive any of the rules, so the one who knew the other was filling in his own card is dq'd too.

Simple.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Can't they just share the pencil?

 

[USER1999]

Or break it in half?

 

[muttleee]

You can't fill in your own card, so the one who fills in his own card is dq'd. Also, you can't agree to waive any of the rules, so the one who knew the other was filling in his own card is dq'd too.

You can't sign your own card (as a marker) but is there a specific rule forbidding you from filling it in yourself? As long as the proper marker signs to show that the scores are correct, I thought that was all that mattered.

 

[USER1999]

Cards have to be exchanged. Remember Mark Roe at the open when he didn't exchange cards with Parnevik? I know they signed the wrong cards at the end, but you do have to swap before starting marking it.

 

[viscount17]

This is all I could find in the Rules. There is nothing explicit about exchanging cards but it is implicit that one should do so as you require two separate signatures.

Scoring
In stroke play, a player who is acting as a marker should, if necessary,on the way to the next tee, check the score with the player concerned and record it.

6-6. Scoring in Stroke Play
a. Recording Scores
After each hole the marker should check the score with the competitor and record it. On completion of the round the marker must sign the score card and hand it to the competitor. If more than one marker records the scores, each must sign for the part for which he is responsible.
b. Signing and Returning Score Card
After completion of the round, the competitor should check his score for each hole and settle any doubtful points with the Committee. He must ensure that the marker or markers have signed the score card, sign the score card himself and return it to the Committee as soon as possible.

 

[USER1999]

If after each hole the marker shall check the score with the competitor and record it, this implies that they cannot be the same person surely.

 

[viscount17]

sure, hence implicit. If it said 'the players shall exchange cards' its explicit

 

[USER1999]

It really ought to say that though. Usual ambiguous statement in the rule book. They could do with a visit by the campaign for clear english.

 

[viscount17]

if the rules were more focussed toward simple do's and do not's they would be much clearer and simpler.

how about ' a moveable object shall be capable of removal <u>and replacement</u> by the player and his caddy (or a player and his partner), otherwise it is immoveable.'

(not 12 people from out of the gallery Mr Woods - outside assistance?)

 

[muttleee]

This is all I could find in the Rules. There is nothing explicit about exchanging cards but it is implicit that one should do so as you require two separate signatures.

Scoring
In stroke play, a player who is acting as a marker should, if necessary,on the way to the next tee, check the score with the player concerned and record it.

Once again it's the difference between 'should' and 'must' in the rules.

'Should' means it's a good idea and it's advisable to do it. 'Must' means you have no choice and are breaking the rules if you don't do it.