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Ron Atkinson didn't, or did he ?.
He was on the William hill podcast last season. Really good on it a aswell,had some top banter
Ron Atkinson didn't, or did he ?.
Graham Rix went on to manage the worlds bravest team after serving a prison sentence for having sex with a minor. Mackay will no doubt work again.....
Only integrity
:thup::rofl:He was on the William hill podcast last season. Really good on it a aswell,had some top banter
Portsmouth :mmm:
In November 1914, Heart of Midlothian comfortably led the First Division,[SUP][19][/SUP] having started the 1914–15 season with eight straight victories, including a 2–0 defeat of reigning champions Celtic.[SUP][20][/SUP]
This streak coincided with the start of the First World War and the beginnings of a public debate upon the morality of continuing professional football while young soldiers were dying on the front-line. A motion was placed before the Scottish Football Association to postpone the season, with one of its backers, Airdrieonians chairman Thomas Forsyth declaring that "playing football while our men are fighting is repugnant".[SUP][21][/SUP] While this motion was defeated at the ballot box, with the SFA opting to wait for War Office advice, the noted East London philanthropist Frederick Charrington was orchestrating a public campaign to have professional football in Britain suspended, and achieving great popular support for his cause.[SUP][22][/SUP] The prime tactic of Charrington's campaign was to shame football players and officials into action through public and private denouncement. In response, sixteen players from Hearts enlisted in Sir George McCrae's new volunteer battalion, joining en masse on 25 November 1914. The battalion was to become the 16th Royal Scots and was the first to earn the "footballer's battalion" sobriquet. The group of volunteers also contained some 500 Hearts supporters and ticket-holders, 150 followers of Hibernian and a number of professionals footballers from Raith Rovers, Falkirk and Dunfermline.[SUP][23][/SUP] Military training was thus added to the Hearts players football training regime, and the side had a 20 game unbeaten run between October and February.[SUP][24][/SUP] However, exhaustion from their army exertions, twice including 10-hour nocturnal-marches the night before a league game,[SUP][25][/SUP] eventually led to a drop in form, as several enlisted players missed key games. Defeats to St Mirren and Morton allowed Celtic to usurp the Maroons and eventually claim the league title by 4 points.[SUP][24][/SUP]
The war claimed the lives of seven first team players: Duncan Currie, John Allan, James Boyd, Tom Gracie, Ernest Ellis, James Speedie and Harry Wattie.[SUP][26][/SUP]
There are two war memorials to mark this period. The McCrae's Battalion Great War Memorial in Contalmaison and the Heart of Midlothian War Memorial in Haymarket, Edinburgh donated to the city by the club in 1922.[SUP][27][/SUP] The latter is currently in storage due to the Edinburgh Trams work.[SUP][28][/SUP] A further memorial commemorating the 1914 Hearts team has been proposed by the club.[SUP][29][/SUP] An annual pilgrimage is held by football supporters to Contalmaison every year,[SUP][30][/SUP][SUP][31][/SUP] whilst Hearts hold their memorial services at Haymarket[SUP][32][/SUP] or, whilst it is in storage, at Tynecastle Stadium.[SUP][33][/SUP]
A NICE PIECE OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL HISTORY. :thup:In November 1914, Heart of Midlothian comfortably led the First Division,[SUP][19][/SUP] having started the 1914–15 season with eight straight victories, including a 2–0 defeat of reigning champions Celtic.[SUP][20][/SUP]
This streak coincided with the start of the First World War and the beginnings of a public debate upon the morality of continuing professional football while young soldiers were dying on the front-line. A motion was placed before the Scottish Football Association to postpone the season, with one of its backers, Airdrieonians chairman Thomas Forsyth declaring that "playing football while our men are fighting is repugnant".[SUP][21][/SUP] While this motion was defeated at the ballot box, with the SFA opting to wait for War Office advice, the noted East London philanthropist Frederick Charrington was orchestrating a public campaign to have professional football in Britain suspended, and achieving great popular support for his cause.[SUP][22][/SUP] The prime tactic of Charrington's campaign was to shame football players and officials into action through public and private denouncement. In response, sixteen players from Hearts enlisted in Sir George McCrae's new volunteer battalion, joining en masse on 25 November 1914. The battalion was to become the 16th Royal Scots and was the first to earn the "footballer's battalion" sobriquet. The group of volunteers also contained some 500 Hearts supporters and ticket-holders, 150 followers of Hibernian and a number of professionals footballers from Raith Rovers, Falkirk and Dunfermline.[SUP][23][/SUP] Military training was thus added to the Hearts players football training regime, and the side had a 20 game unbeaten run between October and February.[SUP][24][/SUP] However, exhaustion from their army exertions, twice including 10-hour nocturnal-marches the night before a league game,[SUP][25][/SUP] eventually led to a drop in form, as several enlisted players missed key games. Defeats to St Mirren and Morton allowed Celtic to usurp the Maroons and eventually claim the league title by 4 points.[SUP][24][/SUP]
The war claimed the lives of seven first team players: Duncan Currie, John Allan, James Boyd, Tom Gracie, Ernest Ellis, James Speedie and Harry Wattie.[SUP][26][/SUP]
There are two war memorials to mark this period. The McCrae's Battalion Great War Memorial in Contalmaison and the Heart of Midlothian War Memorial in Haymarket, Edinburgh donated to the city by the club in 1922.[SUP][27][/SUP] The latter is currently in storage due to the Edinburgh Trams work.[SUP][28][/SUP] A further memorial commemorating the 1914 Hearts team has been proposed by the club.[SUP][29][/SUP] An annual pilgrimage is held by football supporters to Contalmaison every year,[SUP][30][/SUP][SUP][31][/SUP] whilst Hearts hold their memorial services at Haymarket[SUP][32][/SUP] or, whilst it is in storage, at Tynecastle Stadium.[SUP][33][/SUP]
Graham Rix went on to manage the worlds bravest team after serving a prison sentence for having sex with a minor. Mackay will no doubt work again.....
My post was aimed longer for a more general view as opposed to just yours which im fully aware off.
I have spoken a few of my former colleagues above the border and not one would consider it racist
So its all right to crack racist/homophobic/xenophobic (whatever) kind of jokes as long as its between mates cos its not really discriminatory
As long as the lads can still be lads everything is OK then eh?
I stand by all i say above .. Ive cracked jokes i shouldnt , laughed at jokes maybe i shouldnt , passed comments re women i shouldnt ,
So u tell me then straight up , you have met me , drank with me and spent time in my company
Do you think im a racist or a sexist or a homophobe ?
Im asking you straight out and i wont be offended ,complain or report your honest reply
I stand by all i say above .. Ive cracked jokes i shouldnt , laughed at jokes maybe i shouldnt , passed comments re women i shouldnt ,
So u tell me then straight up , you have met me , drank with me and spent time in my company
Do you think im a racist or a sexist or a homophobe ?
Im asking you straight out and i wont be offended ,complain or report your honest reply
I'll answer that Bill.......never in a year of Saturday's. I am surprised at Chris's and many others stances on here to be honest.
Many appear to have turned into Snow White overnight.
If you have said done those thing then yes however anytime I have been in your company then you haven't acted like that. I am pretty sure at times I have done similar stuff to you it doesn't make it any different. Racist behaviour is racist behaviou whether intentional or not.
If you overheard a group of "lads" in the pub cracking racist/sexist/homophobic jokes would you think its all OK as its just "lads being lads"?
Your concern is truly touching
And your stance is not what I remember of the time I spent with you a couple of years back.No sexism or lurid chat that weekend?
Maybe it's the Mod tag.
As I said Snow White comes to mind.
I'll answer that Bill.......never in a year of Saturday's. I am surprised at Chris's and many others stances on here to be honest.
Many appear to have turned into Snow White overnight.
I stand by all i say above .. Ive cracked jokes i shouldnt , laughed at jokes maybe i shouldnt , passed comments re women i shouldnt ,
So u tell me then straight up , you have met me , drank with me and spent time in my company
Do you think im a racist or a sexist or a homophobe ?
Im asking you straight out and i wont be offended ,complain or report your honest reply