Let's Moan About Refs Yet Again

[MadAdey]

As I type another wrong decision that my above suggestion would stop gifts Liverpool a penalty!

Go to agree, it was a bif soft. Was it or wasn't it, not too sure. One of those decisions that can go either way. A player as small as Sterling is always going to go down when a defender goes into him, he is not big enough to stay up.

 

[MadAdey]

Can I just point out the refs didnt write the offside rule, they are there to attempt to apply it.

This is sort of the point that I was going to get to with the thread. They are asked to implement rules that are open to too much personal interpretation and make that decision on the spot without much time to think about it, or the advantage of replays.

Just out of curiosity. Who on here is a qualified ref that has been doing it for long enough that they have done it with the older, more simple rules IMO.

 

[Captainron]

Football needs to get TV refs involved in the game like they do in rugby.

 

[MegaSteve]

A player as small as Sterling is always going to go down when a defender goes into him, he is not big enough to stay up.

Georgie Best managed perfectly well back in the day when refs were less easily duped... Also you were awarded penalties then rather than seek to win 'em...

 

[MadAdey]

Georgie Best managed perfectly well back in the day when refs were less easily duped... Also you were awarded penalties then rather than seek to win 'em...

Not really looking at getting into an argument about players maybe going over too easy. That is not what this thread is about. I am talking more about refs getting obvious decisions wrong, that penalty is one of those that could go either way.

This is born out of a discussion at work the other day. My mate is working his way up the ref ladder and he was saying that people need to lay of the ref a bit more and accept that it is difficult to get every decision correct. He was saying that at times you have to make a call and it may involve a personal interpretation of the rule book. Problem is when a rule is not black and white and is open to interpretation there is a risk that it will be wrong.

 

[cookelad]

Problem is consistency, and you're never going to get that when the refs have the make an instant decision on something they only get to see once especially when the rule is a bit grey!

I'd like to see some stats on how many decisions the refs get correct against those that they get incorrect, and I wouldn't bet against them getting more right than wrong problem being we amateur observers only remember those they get wrong!

 

[MadAdey]

Problem is consistency, and you're never going to get that when the refs have the make an instant decision on something they only get to see once especially when the rule is a bit grey!

I'd like to see some stats on how many decisions the refs get correct against those that they get incorrect, and I wouldn't bet against them getting more right than wrong problem being we amateur observers only remember those they get wrong!

They may make 100 decisions a game, but a lot of those are for things like throw ins that are not difficult to make. They still get some of them wrong though. But normally a ref may have to make 2 or 3 big decisions a game that can have a major influence on not just that game but games to follow. They are the ones we all moan about, but then some of those decisions have not been easy to make, due to to having to make a personal interpretation on the spur of the moment.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Poor referring again this weekend - regardless if we got the benefit or not it's still poor. It wasn't a penalty for us - got that wrong and the ref in the Newcastle is awful

 

[MadAdey]

Poor referring again this weekend - regardless if we got the benefit or not it's still poor. It wasn't a penalty for us - got that wrong and the ref in the Newcastle is awful

Watch those splinters up your arse Phil...............LOL. The penalty is one of those decisions that can go either way, was there contact....YES, was it enough to warrant a penalty.....NO. With being in the position of a couple of replays we know it was a bit fortunate, but the ref has to make a big call from about 50 yards away, easy to get wrong. If he was 10 yards away though, he would not get my sympathy on giving the penalty.

But on a positive note, nice to see Sturridge back and have him setup Suarez, then Suarez returns the favour......:whoo:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think the standard of the PL referees this season has gone downhill. Not sure if that is down to being over scrutinised both by their own professional body or the press and managers. Either way they seem to be making too many bad decisions, missing too much and generally making it a lottery for fans and players alike

 

[Liverbirdie]

I think the standard of the PL referees this season has gone downhill. Not sure if that is down to being over scrutinised both by their own professional body or the press and managers. Either way they seem to be making too many bad decisions, missing too much and generally making it a lottery for fans and players alike

+1.

 

[chrisd]

I've been to most of the home games at Selhurst Park this season and the standard of refereeing is just as poor as it was when we last in the Premiership!

We see things 80 yards away and 3 full time officials either don't see them or choose not to!

 

[guest100718]

It cant be easy being a ref, trying to work out in a split second whats real vs the usual diving and cheating and thats just Suarez!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It cant be easy being a ref, trying to work out in a split second whats real vs the usual diving and cheating and thats just Suarez!

Please check the amount of bookings given out to players this season for diving and try to spot Suarez in the list

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I use to referee on a Sunday morning. That was interesting especially with no linesmen. You just do your best to apply the laws and make decisions on what you see. The difference is we have no technology, no 4th official and no help. Despite this they still can't get it right as often as they should. Its even more laughable in Europe with the extra officials on the goal line. In the Europa League with Fulham I never saw them make a single decision or assist the referee in any way

 

[guest100718]

Please check the amount of bookings given out to players this season for diving and try to spot Suarez in the list

Lol im not interested in one of your petty arguments. Youll have to whine to the mods about someone else being mean to you.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Lol im not interested in one of your petty arguments. Youll have to whine to the mods about someone else being mean to you.

What are you talking about ?

It's not petty arguments it's trying to ensure that you have the full facts when making posts

You are talking about diving and Suarez yet he has been booked for diving where as plenty other players have this season

So if you are going to highlight diving ( which is a good thing ) - then please ensure you highlight the correct players who have actually been punished for diving as opposed to highlighting someone who hasn't

 

[guest100718]

What are you talking about ?

It's not petty arguments it's trying to ensure that you have the full facts when making posts

You are talking about diving and Suarez yet he has been booked for diving where as plenty other players have this season

So if you are going to highlight diving ( which is a good thing ) - then please ensure you highlight the correct players who have actually been punished for diving as opposed to highlighting someone who hasn't

Like I said , not interested.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The please don't blurt out statements if you are unwilling to be challenged on them :thup:

 

[In_The_Rough]

Only just seen the incident on MOTD2 and it was a really bad decision to disallow the goal. Have to say though it couldn't have to happened to a better bloke as I cannot stand Pardew at all, displaying his usual disgraceful behaviour on the touchline and picking a fight with Pellegrini.