Let's Moan About Refs Yet Again

[MadAdey]

I thought I would be the one to start this thread......

Here we go again, a referee getting a big decision wrong and it going in favour of one of the top teams. That was a goal and Newcastle have been robbed. People say it will even itself out over the season, I am yet to be convinced. In recent weeks they have had perfectly good goals by opposing teams disallowed in games that they where not playing overly well in and could have lost if the goals had been given.

6 points that they may be picking up thanks to referees.

 

[Dodger]

I thought I would be the one to start this thread......

Here we go again, a referee getting a big decision wrong and it going in favour of one of the top teams. That was a goal and Newcastle have been robbed. People say it will even itself out over the season, I am yet to be convinced. In recent weeks they have had perfectly good goals by opposing teams disallowed in games that they where not playing overly well in and could have lost if the goals had been given.

6 points that they may be picking up thanks to referees.

You missed off that he also failed to produce 2 red cards for players wearing black and white....

 

[MadAdey]

You missed off that he also failed to produce 2 red cards for players wearing black and white....

Exactly........ How many decisions did he get wrong. looks like becoming a familiar thing at the moment. I still think that FIFA need to simplify the rules, bit more like the old days that I feel was a little bit less open to personal interpretation.

 

[AmandaJR]

You missed off that he also failed to produce 2 red cards for players wearing black and white....

Yep - only one player on his way to hospital. Plus Joe Hart was waiting for the off side player to touch the ball so he was intefering with play.

Swings and roundabouts - you get some, you don't get others and I'm sick of the constant criticism and intimidation of referees. Not helped in their role by the fact that a good number of the 22 players on the pitch are usually cheats.

 

[AmandaJR]

Exactly........ How many decisions did he get wrong. looks like becoming a familiar thing at the moment. I still think that FIFA need to simplify the rules, bit more like the old days that I feel was a little bit less open to personal interpretation.

Now I'm confused - thought his poor decision making was favouring one of the top teams??

 

[Pin-seeker]

Exactly........ How many decisions did he get wrong. looks like becoming a familiar thing at the moment. I still think that FIFA need to simplify the rules, bit more like the old days that I feel was a little bit less open to personal interpretation.

I think Dodger was trying to point out that the ref also got game changing decisions wrong in favour of the lesser team . ( I agree)

 

[Dodger]

Exactly........ How many decisions did he get wrong. looks like becoming a familiar thing at the moment. I still think that FIFA need to simplify the rules, bit more like the old days that I feel was a little bit less open to personal interpretation.

But in you OP you state that Newcastle been robbed.

Maybe with the goal but they should have been a man down with the majority of the 2nd half to go and a further man down a bit later.

Human beings make mistakes.

Tough crap.

 

[MadAdey]

Yep - only one player on his way to hospital. Plus Joe Hart was waiting for the off side player to touch the ball so he was intefering with play.

I still think that the new offside rules are a joke. In the old days he is clearly offside, no arguing at all. What you have just highlighted is that the ref has to make a call if the player was causing an interference to Hart or not, only Hart knows the answer to that.

I do agree that Refs get a lot of criticism and all the TV cameras do not help that. But I think that the rules and how they have to implement them do not help either. Can we not just change the rules so that if a player is offside then he is offside, none of this having to decide if he was intefeering or trying to gain an advantage or not.

 

[MadAdey]

Now I'm confused - thought his poor decision making was favouring one of the top teams??

Nearly as confusing as trying to Ref a Premier LEague match. I did not quite make my point clear in response to your post. If they get given the goal at that point, they might have been able to hold out for a point even after getting players sent off.

If Newcastle get given the goal and do not get the players sent off then they could have won the match playing the way they did. So Man City get no points. If they get given the goal and get the players sent off then Man City might still have only walked out with 1 point. I just feel that so many games in the last few weeks have been influenced in a big way by the ref getting decisions wrong. It is not 1 call a match it seems to be 3 or 4.

 

[Dodger]

If my Auntie had a penis.....

I kinda hear you.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I just hope no controversial decisions go against Liverpool today or we'll end up with a 400 post thread about how hard done by they are

 

[MadAdey]

I just hope no controversial decisions go against Liverpool today or we'll end up with a 400 post thread about how hard done by they are

You certainly will, I am sat infront of my laptop watching the game..........

Nice little deflection though for the opener...........:thup:

 

[MadAdey]

If my Auntie had a penis.....

I kinda hear you.

You get the point of my post then, not so much a go at refs rather than the impact these decisions have on the overall season. Look at West Ham, they play Newcastle next week. If Newcastle get the red cards then West Ham are playing a team without a couple of key players.

The red card decisions do not just influence the game they are in but also games that follow.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Nearly as confusing as trying to Ref a Premier LEague match. I did not quite make my point clear in response to your post. If they get given the goal at that point, they might have been able to hold out for a point even after getting players sent off.

If Newcastle get given the goal and do not get the players sent off then they could have won the match playing the way they did. So Man City get no points. If they get given the goal and get the players sent off then Man City might still have only walked out with 1 point. I just feel that so many games in the last few weeks have been influenced in a big way by the ref getting decisions wrong. It is not 1 call a match it seems to be 3 or 4.

But you implied in your OP that City were getting all the decisions. Didn't look that way to me.

 

[stevie_r]

Can I just point out the refs didnt write the offside rule, they are there to attempt to apply it.

 

[AmandaJR]

Well I'm a City fan who's always had a soft spot for Newcastle BUT Kabaye should have gone for a 2nd or even 3rd yellow and the guy with the double barrelled name hacked Nasri down with an attempt to hurt him - no other way of looking at that offence imo.

 

[guest100718]

I just hope no controversial decisions go against Liverpool today or we'll end up with a 400 post thread about how hard done by they are

but they always are arent they?

 

[fundy]

I just hope no controversial decisions go against Liverpool today or we'll end up with a 400 post thread about how hard done by they are

lol

 

[JT77]

its time.refs had a helping hand. tmo? like rugby? maybe.
as for the goal it should have stood. two red cards? one maybe, cabaye could have had two yellows but would not have had one if the goal was given.
think mbiwa made a very silly tackle I think he was trying to take him down not injure him but I dont think anyone would have complained if it was red. from the refs view I dont think it looks as bad as on replay.

 

[cookelad]

Think the ref didn't send cabaye off or the double barrel guy because he wanted to get safely out of the stadium after that howler of a decision.

I don't understand, you've got a 'fourth official' stood on the sideline in communication with the linesmen and ref why the heck can't (s)he be sat in front of a tv monitor watching the match so that when this sort and other incidents happen he can sky+ live rewind and tell the ref straight away.

As I type another wrong decision that my above suggestion would stop gifts Liverpool a penalty!