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That intelligence seems to be working very well finding targets in Iraq
And it's helping the Iraq army fight back against ISIS
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That intelligence seems to be working very well finding targets in Iraq
And it's helping the Iraq army fight back against ISIS
CheltenhamHacker
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I'm sorry, but have you actually looked at numbers of civilian deaths in iraq, caused by the west? Different sources have put this number at over 100,000. I understand that the US are much bigger than us, but if you're going to dismiss my use of the word thousands out of hand, then i dont know what to say
Old Skier
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Not a figure I have seen but if your source is good then it must be correct
CheltenhamHacker
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Going on a couple of different places, there was a telegraoh article (
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ears-on-at-least-116000-civilians-killed.html )
And the websites
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3750.htm
https://www.iraqbodycount.org
Athough the latter do look a tad biased, the DT article iseems a bit more neutral
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Guess it doesnt break down the amount killed by which side etc ?
Old Skier
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Any deaths are to many but the wikileaks document from 2004-2009 gives 66,081 civilian deaths. Now given the length of time given I would suspect a large number could go down to Iraq on Iraq.
ColchesterFC
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If these figures are to be believed it seems that Jeremy Corbyn's views are pretty much identical to a large majority of the labour membership when it comes to the question of bombing IS in Syria.......
Apologies for the image from the Daily Mail.
Apologies for the image from the Daily Mail.
USER1999
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100,000 for a missile to take out a 5 grand beaten up old pick up truck.
Value for money?
Value for money?
ColchesterFC
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I suppose that depends on what value you put on preventing a few hundred (or more) innocent civilians in a major European city from being murdered.
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Beaten up old truck carries an ISIS leader or the next suicide bomber - how much is it worth then ?
USER1999
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Or it carries some local, who has no idea what is going on.
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Then the vehicle won't be targeted if it's just carrying a local.
Doon frae Troon
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Defense Minister admitting that we will not destroy IS by bombing alone.....we all know now what that means.
Defense committee guy stating that a lot of the weapons and vehicles used by IS are produced in the USA.
Perhaps they are also using some of the old UK stuff when we supplied both Iran and Iraq.
Defense committee guy stating that a lot of the weapons and vehicles used by IS are produced in the USA.
Perhaps they are also using some of the old UK stuff when we supplied both Iran and Iraq.
richy
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Can you say that for sure 100%?
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Why would the RAF target an innocent person ?
Sweep
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Who ever said that bombing alone would destroy IS completely? No-one.
If ground troops are needed after targets are taken out, so be it. We have to do whatever it takes to rid ourselves of this evil cancer. Those who oppose action MUST come up with a credible alternative to solve this issue or just be quiet.
We are talking about protecting innocent people the world over. That is what we have a military for, and thank God we do.
Which is why it's important to continue to bomb them, this softens them and reduces their mobility to take over other cities/towns and grab more weapons and more importantly ammunition which is the hardest thing for them to acquire, whilst stunting their mobility this also allows the Kurds to protect their borders and push back ISIS where possible, they can't achieve this without us bombing and the Brimstone is the perfect weapon for that as it's a very clinical and precise bomb and as such can make a huge impact on reducing their (ISIS) mobility.
FairwayDodger
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By mistake?
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In the presicion bombing carried out by the RAF in the fight against IS in Iraq - mistakes = zero , collateral damage = zero
The RAF are not the US who clearly regualry make mistakes.
FairwayDodger
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Aye, right.
