Jeremy Corbyn

[Deleted member 15344]

Well that's another question entirely but all I am looking for is an acknowledgement that mistakes happen and a genuine desire to minimise the chances of mistakes.

Of course mistakes happen - they have happened in the past

That's why things like brimstone are introduced - to reduce the risk of collateral damage and why joint intelligence sections created from the brightest and best people and only acting on the best intelligence that can be found

If something has been targeted then everything possible humanly has been done to minimise the risk and to ensure the intelligence is correct

That hasn't always been the case before with too much been relied on foriegn intelligence

 

[FairwayDodger]

I most certainly did - hence the part about reducing the risks of making mistakes.

I suggest you read it more closely before accusing me of suggesting we "do nothing".

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I suggest you read it more closely before accusing me of suggesting we "do nothing".

I wasn't accusing you of suggesting we do nothing - was a question.

If it came out that way I apologise

 

[FairwayDodger]

On a slight tangent I am struck by the irony of our desire to blow up Islamic State with Brimstone missiles while we also sell them to Saudi Arabia.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

On a slight tangent I am struck by the irony of our desire to blow up Islamic State with Brimstone missiles while we also sell them to Saudi Arabia.

That is the big question that needs answering - Saudi have Typhoon jets capable of delivering the Brimstone - so what course of action will they take. They need to be involved

 

[Old Skier]

Well that's another question entirely but all I am looking for is an acknowledgement that mistakes happen and a genuine desire to minimise the chances of mistakes.

Humans are involved, mistakes will always happen. People have to be realistic and acknowledge that and it would help if those above would admit it as well. That doesn't mean nothing should be done to neutralise the effect that IS is having.

 

[MegaSteve]

That is the big question that needs answering - Saudi have Typhoon jets capable of delivering the Brimstone - so what course of action will they take. They need to be involved

Quite, what we should be saying is 'after you'...

NOT... 'Follow us please'...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Quite, what we should be saying is 'after you'...

NOT... 'Follow us please'...

Or at the very least - come with us

It's needs to be joint action

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Let us just hope that the Saudi's do not change sides then, like the UK did with Syria.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Let us just hope that the Saudi's do not change sides then, like the UK did with Syria.

What side do you think they would change too ?!?

 

[chippa1909]

Just a thought for the mods.
Should this not be in Ask The Experts?

 

[Old Skier]

Must be serious the Germans are in.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Just a thought for the mods.
Should this not be in Ask The Experts?

Hear they have found a suspect package in London

What would it take for you to think it's time to act against terrorists ?

 

[ger147]

Must be serious the Germans are in.

Germans "assisting" i.e. not bombing and no active combat for their troops.

http://news.sky.com/story/1597558/germany-joins-campaign-against-is-in-syria

 

[Old Skier]

I would suspect IS to take a low profile this week as votes going on around Europe about joining in.

 

[chippa1909]

Hear they have found a suspect package in London

What would it take for you to think it's time to act against terrorists ?

Are you seriously suggesting that bombing terrorists (a) in Syria is going to prevent terrorists (b) planting bombs in London?
If this is the case, why did we not bomb Ireland when the IRA were bombing London and Birmingham?

 

[Old Skier]

Are you seriously suggesting that bombing terrorists (a) in Syria is going to prevent terrorists (b) planting bombs in London?
If this is the case, why did we not bomb Ireland when the IRA were bombing London and Birmingham?

Why would bombing Ireland have an affect.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Are you seriously suggesting that bombing terrorists (a) in Syria is going to prevent terrorists (b) planting bombs in London?
If this is the case, why did we not bomb Ireland when the IRA were bombing London and Birmingham?

I just asked at what stage would you think the use of force is needed as right now you would prefer to do nothing

And taking out suicide bombers will reduce their capability to harm innocent lives .

 

[chippa1909]

Why would bombing Ireland have an affect.

Exactly!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I just asked at what stage would you think the use of force is needed as right now you would prefer to do nothing

And taking out suicide bombers will reduce their capability to harm innocent lives .

Even though there are undoubtedly cells already spread across the globe, especially in Europe as Paris showed. Bombing "may" have a place but it won't get rid of the threat, won't exclude the need for troops on the ground, and the inevitable casualties that will bring, on an very long term operation, and certainly won#t stop those cells already trained and being trained around the world. I fear that while intelligence may have a handle on some, it won't stop others, eithe as part of an organised strategy or as lone operators to continue to deliver their brand of terrorism