Jeremy Corbyn
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MegaSteve
Tour Winner
So he could get your vote then on his EU stance
Would find it easier to support an anti EU Labour party whereas I could never see myself voting UKIP...
Being only slightly left of the Tories has not helped Labour with being elected so might as well move back nearer in position to their roots...
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I think they may as well. Maybe not electable today, but in 5 years time when a lot of folks will be sick to the teeth of the Tories - their broken promises and the hardship they'll have caused - you never know.
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Possibly so, but don't forget that in around 3 + 1/2 years time from now the Tory party will be hoping to have the economy sorted and start their pre-election tax giveaway. For a lot of people those two things will be enough for them to vote Conservative again.
Ethan
Money List Winner
Interesting article by Andrew Rawnsley in the Guardian.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/02/labour-split-corbyn-blairites?CMP=fb_gu
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/02/labour-split-corbyn-blairites?CMP=fb_gu
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Read that in the Observer yesterday. As much as I thought I would support JC, I'm not so sure as the majority of the UK electorate don't seem at all interested in what he says as they simply think they'd be financially poorer off and that's all that seems to matter.
Then again Ian Birrell suggests that many Labour supporters need to get their hankering for strictly left of centre policy out of their system - which they will do when come to understand over a few years of having JC as their leader the implication of what his policies would actually mean - and when they see how unpopular they are with the majority. A very significant seismic shift and resetting of the social sensibilities of many UK voters is required for his policies to be even on their radar - and the start of that change is at least two Tory governments in the future.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Interesting piece in Wings as well.
Most popular candidate by the Party getting shafted by the three other candidates.....there's democracy at work Labour style.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/
An English Labour Party led by Corbyn would sort things out.
Most popular candidate by the Party getting shafted by the three other candidates.....there's democracy at work Labour style.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/
An English Labour Party led by Corbyn would sort things out.
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
They were promising to have it [economy] sorted before recent GE and came up way short... Not quite sure why they believe they can find a fix any time soon...
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
You mean do things like cancel the cap on social care costs for the elderly - I didn't spot that one in the manifesto. And oh look - it'll be back later in the parliament in - April 2020. And when's the next GE? What a disingenuous shower the Tories are - and they have the gall to call the SNP opportunist.
Ethan
Money List Winner
Have a look at this:
http://www.theguardian.com/business...ding-did-not-cause-financial-crisis?CMP=fb_gu
http://www.theguardian.com/business...ding-did-not-cause-financial-crisis?CMP=fb_gu
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Interesting - but will be pooh-poohed by the many who wish to use 'Labour caused the financial crisis' as their rationale for voting Tory and on an ongoing basis for being able to justify the hardships the Tories will be causing over the coming few years.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Hardships! Give me a break, most people in this country don't have any idea of what real hardship is like.
I asked you a question recently that you never replied to. I ask you again: If we had a Labour Government and all read the Guardian would we be living the life of Riley?
The Green Fairy
Assistant Pro
When Labour are up against it they always resort to some lefty, hoping to appeal to the public sector who believe they will benefit by a more 'socialist' society. In other words the work shy who believe that the state should provide.
Corbyn will be as successful as Foot. Once again the party have misjudged the majority of British public, who these days would prefer someone more charismatic.
Corbyn will be as successful as Foot. Once again the party have misjudged the majority of British public, who these days would prefer someone more charismatic.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
Is "The life of Riley" what we're living now? There is no perfect solution to the problems of today. Too many people not paying their fair share to support the Country. Those people live at both ends of the social spectrum. I'd like to see both extremes dealt with in the same way. I suspect I'll not get my wish anytime soon.
The Green Fairy
Assistant Pro
We've never had it so good.
Well, not since Macmillan, Heath or Thatcher. :fore:
Well, not since Macmillan, Heath or Thatcher. :fore:
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Can you define 'we' please.
I would imagine they do not include the hard working families who are sadly forced to use food banks.
That would be the food banks that no one used 5 years ago.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Thats because they wernt there. If food banks were available at any time in the past people would have used them.
The Green Fairy
Assistant Pro
I've been unemployed for 14 years and never needed a food bank. Nor have I ever had any support from the state.
Just like all the guys at my golf clubs.
Weird that.
Just like all the guys at my golf clubs.
Weird that.
shagster
Head Pro
how did you live then
ie food golf membership etc, just like to know
shagster
ie food golf membership etc, just like to know
shagster
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Ever thought that they were not there because no one needed them.
