Iron Lofts differences between long and short clubs

[duncan mackie]

I was actually custom fitted for them and the 7-iron was the club I hit best in a comparative test with some other makes and my existing 7-iron. I wasn't aware of the gapping issue at the time.

Sorry but it's not 'the gapping issue' it's 'your gapping issue'. Why it exists can be easily established by careful analysis of your data for the 6 7 8 & 9 but in the hands of a robot it won't exist unless you have created an alteration to the 7 and or 8 iron lofts through contact.

 

[Hendy]

I have just sorted my gapping issue in 5mins

Ordered a 48/52&56 there @ 16.39

 

[delc]

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Sorry but it's not 'the gapping issue' it's 'your gapping issue'. Why it exists can be easily established by careful analysis of your data for the 6 7 8 & 9 but in the hands of a robot it won't exist unless you have created an alteration to the 7 and or 8 iron lofts through contact.

Pardon! What are you talking about?

 

[Foxholer]

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Pardon! What are you talking about?

I'll resist - for now! But I'm with Duncan. It's you, not the clubs!

 

[chrisd]

The difference between the 7 and 8 iron in your signature set is 4 degrees = the gapping you said you wanted in an earlier post = no problem with the clubs!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I don't have any issue. I have a fairly consistent distance between all of my irons and can stand on the course fairly certain I know how far each will go with an "average" swing (not a Sunday best) and there is an equal gapping. I agree there's a need for a gap wedge to fill that hole between PW and SW but having got the one I want I don't have a need to get another and so it's a simple one off hit and is a club that adds variety in the short game anyway. A win win really

 

[delc]

The difference between the 7 and 8 iron in your signature set is 4 degrees = the gapping you said you wanted in an earlier post = no problem with the clubs!

From Taylor Made's own website, the specs of the Speed blades are as follows:
LW 60, SW 55, AW 50, PW 45, 9-iron 39.5, 8-iron, 34.5, 7-iron 30,5, 6-iron 26.5, 5-iron 23.0, 4-iron 20.0, 3-iron 17.0. The longer 3-7 irons have a speed pocket with hot faces. The short irons from 8 upwards don't. I note that there is a 5.5 degree gap between the PW and the 9-iron! Why? The issue with the hot faces is that a particularly well struck shot goes further than expected, which is probably the issue I am getting with the 7-iron. I would happily give up a few yards of distance for more consistency. Having said that, they are generally good clubs and I have adapted my game to them.

 

[Foxholer]

From Taylor Made's own website, the specs of the Speed blades are as follows:
LW 60, SW 55, AW 50, PW 45, 9-iron 39.5, 8-iron, 34.5, 7-iron 30,5, 6-iron 26.5, 5-iron 23.0, 4-iron 20.0, 3-iron 17.0. The longer 3-7 irons have a speed pocket with hot faces. The short irons from 8 upwards don't. I note that there is a 5.5 degree gap between the PW and the 9-iron! Why? The issue with the hot faces is that a particularly well struck shot goes further than expected, which is probably the issue I am getting with the 7-iron. I would happily give up a few yards of distance for more consistency. Having said that, they are generally good clubs and I have adapted my game to them.

Del. Once again, you are seem to be making an observation and manufacturing an issue - that doesn't actually exist - from it!

I've tried the Speedblades several times and there were no issues with my gapping! The cynic in me did prompt me to ask the question about why the gap between the 'hot face with speed pocket' 7-iron an the 'normal' 8 iron wasn't greater. The reply was a little dodgy, but the 4* gap (as opposed to the 5* between 8 and 9 irons was supposedly part of it!

 

[chrisd]

From Taylor Made's own website, the specs of the Speed blades are as follows:
LW 60, SW 55, AW 50, PW 45, 9-iron 39.5, 8-iron, 34.5, 7-iron 30,5, 6-iron 26.5, 5-iron 23.0, 4-iron 20.0, 3-iron 17.0. The longer 3-7 irons have a speed pocket with hot faces. The short irons from 8 upwards don't. I note that there is a 5.5 degree gap between the PW and the 9-iron! Why? The issue with the hot faces is that a particularly well struck shot goes further than expected, which is probably the issue I am getting with the 7-iron. I would happily give up a few yards of distance for more consistency. Having said that, they are generally good clubs and I have adapted my game to them.

To be fair, I looked on their world wide spec page so the info may be different but if you are so good at hitting your clubs to notice the half a degree or so differences in the end result, why didn't you check the spec prior to buying, and purchase a set that was exactly to your requirements, or, buy forged clubs and get them altered for you?

 

[patricks148]

the only gaping issue i ever have is the gap between where i aimed and where it ended up

 

[One Planer]

the only gaping issue i ever have is the gap between where i aimed and where it ended up

:thup:

 

[duncan mackie]

From Taylor Made's own website, the specs of the Speed blades are as follows:
LW 60, SW 55, AW 50, PW 45, 9-iron 39.5, 8-iron, 34.5, 7-iron 30,5, 6-iron 26.5, 5-iron 23.0, 4-iron 20.0, 3-iron 17.0. The longer 3-7 irons have a speed pocket with hot faces. The short irons from 8 upwards don't. I note that there is a 5.5 degree gap between the PW and the 9-iron! Why? The issue with the hot faces is that a particularly well struck shot goes further than expected, which is probably the issue I am getting with the 7-iron. I would happily give up a few yards of distance for more consistency. Having said that, they are generally good clubs and I have adapted my game to them.

The specification provided by the manufacturer will be to provide the best spread of gapping in practice - that practice being under controlled conditions rather than in the hands of delc! The difference between the two can easily be established using a launch monitor (if there is one?).

This answers the 'pardon?' and the reason for the particular gap between PW and 9, as an example.

However, and the reason for my question (if there is one?), you have gone away from a specific gapping issue in his post and are now talking about a lack of consistency with the speed pocketed irons and linking his to the (now variable) gapping issue between the 7 and 8.

If you hit the 7 out of the centre with the same impact conditions it will go pretty much the same everytime - as you were actually fitted with the 7 iron you will have had all the data over its dispersion (lateral and distance) combined with the launch conditions you created....ie none of that is news.

That you are more inconsistent with a 7 that an 8 as a mid handicap golfer isn't news to most either - there will be an even greater distance dispersion with a 6 as well.

 

[delc]

And there was me thinking it was to do with launch conditions.

Newer tech' encourages the ball to launch higher. The jacked loft woks in conjunction with other tech to allow the ball to launch easier without ballooning.

FWIW I have set of Mizuno MP63 irons. I have no issue hitting my 3 or 4 iron off the tee or fairway. They are no harder to hit than my 6 iron mainly because I practice a lot with those clubs.

Hitting a PW 150 yards is immaterial.

Who cares if someone can hit their PW 150 yards? I certainly don't. If I'm playing the same shot but with an 8 iron then so be it. I don't feel disadvantaged by This. the number on the sole is irrelevant! If that's how far you hit a particular club consistently, what's the issue?

Fact of the matter is modern clubs make the game a hell of a lot easier for people to play. Easier to launch, more forgiving all the bells and whistles. Can someone explain to me why that is a bad thing?

A Pitching Wedge that hits the ball 150 yards is unlike to be a good finesse club around the greens! :mmm:

 

[Region3]

A Pitching Wedge that hits the ball 150 yards is unlike to be a good finesse club around the greens! :mmm:

In whose hands?

Lots of people are pretty good at chip and runs with their 150yd club.

 

[Foxholer]

A Pitching Wedge that hits the ball 150 yards is unlike to be a good finesse club around the greens! :mmm:

And do you hit your Pitching Wedge 150 yards - other than by skulling it!? If not, do you know how far you do hit it? And what are your PW to 5 (or 6 if you don't have a 5-iron) iron distanecs?

 

[One Planer]

A Pitching Wedge that hits the ball 150 yards is unlike to be a good finesse club around the greens! :mmm:

Who tries to hit a 150 yard shot around the greens

I played a chip with my 200 yard club (3 iron) last night. I suppose you'll tell me that's wrong too?

 

[duncan mackie]

imagine my surprise when I was cleaning the heads of my irons today and noticed that I have a slot in the 7 iron and down, but not in the 8 iron and up.......

:swing:

I had honestly never noticed - I've only been using them a year.

as to whether I have a gaping issue between the 7 & 8; well I think my previous posts make that clear enough!