Injury on an icy course

[ColchesterFC]

How long before our courses are covered in health and safety signs telling us all the potential hazards on the course? And how long before someone hits a shot which rebounds off one of these signs and hits them? Who are they going to sue? The golf club for putting up the signs, the insurers for insisting that the signs are there or the health and safety people for telling the insurers they need the signs.

 

[jammag]

The thing is there should be some public liability insurance put in place. I know there is a case going on local to me where a charity worker was posting something through someones door and a branch snapped off a tree hit him and paralysed him and a claim going through that will be paid once the paper work is settled for £2.3million. It is the public liability that is paying for this even though it was no real fault of the house owners but if they didnt have this in place they would have been sued to bankruptcy.

Now although not as serious as that and whether you agree if its the right thing to do or whether you would have done this 20 years ago, there should be some cover in place that helps out someone involved in an incident whether its slipping over on ice or a falling branch insurance is there for this kind of reason.

 

[chrisd]

Dont be such a Drama queen. Sign a disclaimer. End of.

So, you can clean some golf club members finances out, but we can all sign away the rights that you are so keen to exploit mmmmmm

 

[Colin2324]

So, you can clean some golf club members finances out, but we can all sign away the rights that you are so keen to exploit mmmmmm

So you want to retain the right ? Or not ? Confused ?

 

[chrisd]

So you want to retain the right ? Or not ? Confused ?

I want to retain the right, but that right not to be abused by money grabbing, compo claiming golfers, who walk around on a freezing day without taking care of their own health and safety and expect my subscriptions to fund their greed !

 

[ColchesterFC]

Why isn't it possible to have an "accident" these days? It seems that whenever something happens (not just in this case) there is a rush to apportion blame and/or claim compensation. Sometimes **** happens and we just have to accept that fact and move on.
In this particular case, if the club expressly banned the wearing of spiked golf shoes as some clubs around my way do then I can see that they would be liable. If this isn't the case then I'd have to put this in the category of an unfortunate accident that possibly could have been prevented but only by taking health and safety to the Nth degree and closing the course because of the frost but by playing in what you admit were frosty conditions I would suggest that you have to take responsibility for your own injury.

 

[Colin2324]

I want to retain the right, but that right not to be abused by money grabbing, compo claiming golfers, who walk around on a freezing day without taking care of their own health and safety and expect my subscriptions to fund their greed !

So you want to retain the right to claim compensation for your own blameless misfortunes but you want to judge everyone else's case and dismiss them out of hand based on limited knowledge of what actually happened ?

 

[chrisd]

So you want to retain the right to claim compensation for your own blameless misfortunes but you want to judge everyone else's case and dismiss them out of hand based on limited knowledge of what actually happened ?

You asked for opinions and giving them has to be based on the information you cared to make public.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Clearly I think there is fault on their part. I would have thought that was bleeding obvious. If I Thought it was my fault would we even be having this discussion ? .

You think it was their fault or your "no win, no fee" lawyers think it was. You see it wasn't that many posts ago that you had no intention of suing?

Frankly, I'm not sure you should have even raised this on a public forum

 

[Rooter]

Frankly, I'm not sure you should have even raised this on a public forum

Exactly, how many golf clubs in the UK? how many users on this forum? what are the odds that some here is a member at said icy club. (must be up north or scotland, as we all know its grim up there) then what are the odds this post gets pointed out to the club sec?

LOL, epic legal fail coming up me thinks.

 

[MadAdey]

I think Colin is coming under some attack here from people and now he has lost it and started to throw insults back, apparantly he is the one in the wrong and getting his wrists slapped. I do not have time to go back through the thread looking to the exact comments and who made them, but things like i hope you go out and break your other ankle to me is well out of line, along with the people who thought it was funny. This person is out of line expecting to get some compo from the club, but at the same time there are people on here who are out of line for the way they have treated him.

 

[williamalex1]

I think Colin is coming under some attack here from people and now he has lost it and started to throw insults back, apparantly he is the one in the wrong and getting his wrists slapped. I do not have time to go back through the thread looking to the exact comments and who made them, but things like i hope you go out and break your other ankle to me is well out of line, along with the people who thought it was funny. This person is out of line expecting to get some compo from the club, but at the same time there are people on here who are out of line for the way they have treated him.

Wisnae me .

 

[MadAdey]

Wisnae me .

Can you see where I am coming from Will? or am I just getting soft in my old age.........

 

[Mark_G]

Why is Colin suing the club? Why doesn't he sue the manufacturer of the shoes he was wearing? Was there anything on the box that the shoes came in that said they would not offer sufficient grip in icy conditions? If the injury was caused by lack of grip between the shoes and the ground, then surely the shoe manufacturer as supplier to Colin, would be part liable, as it was their equipment that failed to provide the grip required for Colin to stay on two feet. I cant help thinking that Colin is suing the wrong people, a golf club isnt going to have much money, but an international golf shoe manufacturer would have millions of pounds. Unless as a 55 year old you can remember when people took responsibility for themselves, and their actions, when accidents were accidents, and people didn't try to blame all and sundry for everything bad that happened to them.

 

[Pull]

I think Colin is coming under some attack here from people and now he has lost it and started to throw insults back, apparantly he is the one in the wrong and getting his wrists slapped. I do not have time to go back through the thread looking to the exact comments and who made them, but things like i hope you go out and break your other ankle to me is well out of line, along with the people who thought it was funny. This person is out of line expecting to get some compo from the club, but at the same time there are people on here who are out of line for the way they have treated him.

Completely agree with you, not for the first time I've read a thread on these forums and been disgusted by the attitude and comments made by the majority.

It puts me off posting regularly and makes this forum seem like one of the old fashioned clubs where as if you're not part of the group that clicks you're made out to be worlds worst terrorist or similar.

In terms of the thread, I sympathise with Colin. As he's seen to be going after our beloved golf clubs then automatically people grab there pitch forks and torches and set loose on him..
If you were in a high street shop and slipped on some spilt water which hadn't been signposted or cleared, I bet 95% of you would be on the phone sueing before even getting up regardless of the fact you should have seen the water.
Yes it probably was partly his fault but if the club accepts money they are accepting the course is fit to play. It clearly wasn't and they are negligent to some extent.

And also, for what it's worth, after 20 odd pages of attacks on Colin, including someone wishing he broke his other ankle that he gets a warning after a few comments. Tad unfair on the bloke.

 

[williamalex1]

Can you see where I am coming from Will? or am I just getting soft in my old age.........

no i can see your view , but i posted a few thoughts, opinions , ideas tongue in cheek , only to be told by the op thats rubbish or asked what age i am.
Tbh he deserves what he gets. he has opened a very large can of worms without thinking it through. This could be very costly to all golf clubs, because he fell

 

[Imurg]

C
If you were in a high street shop and slipped on some spilt water which hadn't been signposted or cleared, I bet 95% of you would be on the phone sueing before even getting up regardless of the fact you should have seen the water.

Because you could reasonably expect there to not be water on the floor of a shop
If it's frosty out on the course can you reasonably expect there to not be any ice around..?

 

[stevie_r]

If you were in a high street shop and slipped on some spilt water which hadn't been signposted or cleared, I bet 95% of you would be on the phone sueing before even getting up regardless of the fact you should have seen the water.

He wasn't in a shop, he was walking around a frozen field - willingly. He couldn't stay on his feet, it's not the golf clubs fault.

 

[the hammer]

something similar happened at a club local to me , a female member slipped on frosty sleepers forming steps to the 1st tee, i believe the claim was successful,now there are disclaimers at the side of the tee in frosty weather.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

My problem with the thread is the way the story seems to have changed since the OP. no intention to sue, see what I'll get, "almost certain to win"

As I've said before surely Colin was negligent by slipping and then risking further injury by walking across two other frozen fairways on an already injured limb. How much more damage was done and how much risk was there walking on now treacherous ice with only one good leg?

At the end of the day, the die has been cast and unless Colin goes to his money hunting legal teams and retracts the claim (yeah right) this will run until the inevitable conclusion. Blame will be apportioned, rightly or wrongly and the mystery club will be faced with a bill that arguably in the economic market put them out of business. It of course is his decision and yes the club handled it wrongly to start but fighting fire with fire when the club didn't actually take any action just seems wrong to me